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1909 IH upgrade from PCGS MS66 to 67RD

shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
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1909 is the most common IH common date. But when you can get it bumped from 66RD to 67RD you hit major paydirt.
It becomes a pop 4/0 coin.

1909 PCGS MS66RD from the August 2006 Sig Sale.
1909 PCGS MS67RD from the current Long Beach Sale.

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Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org

Comments

  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    This is when you buy the coin and not the holder image
  • jacktheknifejacktheknife Posts: 1,547 ✭



    Nice pick up.

    Jack


  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely the same coin, and for once it doesn't look like the coin got worked on between holders.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Looks like a nice 66 but I don't care for the jaw line/cheek/chin chatter (for a 67 grade).
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like a nice 66 but I don't care for the jaw line/cheek/chin chatter (for a 67 grade). >>



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  • jacktheknifejacktheknife Posts: 1,547 ✭


    I agree, I think it looks better in a 66 holder.

    Jack

  • yellowjacketyellowjacket Posts: 1,809 ✭
    What you see as "cheek chatter," I see as streaks of toning. The coin looks clean and nice to me!
    Nice acquisition.

    Garrow
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I posted it here, on the Registry Forum, because I thought I'd get more interesting reactions.

    You guys seem to be more accepting of this upgrade.

    Is it a "Registry" thing, if you can get the upgrade you're worthy of it?

    Where is Stewart Blay?
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    I thought PCGS was 'ridiculously tight' lately?

    Sure doesn't look like it.
    Rob
    Lincoln set Colorless Set
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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For starters, what is this???

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    Doug
  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    image

    That's what kept it out of the 68 holder image

    I think it is at best a 66.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For starters, what is this???

    eets just a flesh wound! image
    Early Dollar Set
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Between those obverse and rev hits and tics, toning streaks taking it on the "chin, general spotting and toning, I can think of lots of reasons this would not be my MS67.

    Hmmm, a year or so to make the upgrade? That's a lot of resubmits imo.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Interesting replies, I'm glad I crossed this post over to the Registry.

    You guys know your IH grades.
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Would any of you who thinks it is a 66 pay 66 money for it? I for one wouldn't, in fact I wouldn't want it period.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    HI PAUL This coin was offered to myself and three other collestors for $21,000 in August of this year.I sold three 1909 Indian cents in August of this year in ms 66 red
    for an average of $1,100 a coin.I already own a 1909 Indian cent in ms 67 red that I bought from Eagle Eye in 1997 for $2,000.I believe you have an image of my coin on your web site Coingallery.org.
    Stewart
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Stewart -

    Your 1909 67RD is my title page into your great collection of IH's on CoinGallery.org.

    Blay intro

    When it comes to 1909 IH's in high grade it doesn't get any better than this.

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    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pop 1/0 MS68RD - maybe not today, but one day (from that scan)!

    Wondercoin
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  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭
    1909 PCGS MS67RD sells at Heritage Long Beach auction to internet bidder for $20,125!! up from $1,725 in the previous holder image
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
  • compromonedascompromonedas Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭
    That is a very nice coin!!!!!
    Keithimage
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can I ask a stupid question?

    How in the world does a coin like Blay's 7RD stay that beautiful for almost 100 years w/o turning even the slightest brown? I know nothing of RD Cents but would like to here some thoughts please?

    Very interested!

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • iras4iras4 Posts: 300


    << <i>Can I ask a stupid question?

    How in the world does a coin like Blay's 7RD stay that beautiful for almost 100 years w/o turning even the slightest brown? I know nothing of RD Cents but would like to here some thoughts please?

    Very interested!

    Later, Paul. >>



    Paul,

    If the coin is kept in a dry environment and not stored in a closed area with lots of documents, that's how. Intercept Shield boxes with the coins in the specially treated capsules will keep them looking great nowadays, but Intercept Shield is a recent development. Of couse, of the coin has been "improved" chemically. nothing will stop the color changes that will occur. The coin is ruined for posterity.

    Ira
    Dealer/old-time collector
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    How in the world does a coin like Blay's 67RD stay that beautiful for almost 100 years w/o turning even the slightest brown? I know nothing of RD Cents but would like to here some thoughts please?

    Great question.

    The paranoia about RD copper is such a load of crap.

    You said it best with How in the world does a coin like Blay's 67RD stay that beautiful for almost 100 years w/o turning even the slightest brown

    This coin survived 100 years, is now encapsulated, and some collectors expect it to turn brown in the next decade...

    Don't hold your breath...
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭

    nothing like the protection of the "original skin" mess with it and the coin is fair game for color change.image
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
  • cointimecointime Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet looking IHC. Congrats!

    My Washington Type B/C Set

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