Just back from my local B&M shop...would you say anything???

lkenefic

I just recently re-started a Morgan Dolar date set after selling off most of my collection this past April. I'm now trying to put together an AU50 to MS62-ish set. As I was looking through the boxes of Morgan dollars I noticed that the prices went up about $10 per coin for AU to low-MS coins... OK...I guess I can live with a price increase. But as I further inspect each piece I notice several with what looks like fingerprints! This leads leads me to more closely inspect each one. Now I notice what looks like dip residue and it's not on just a few... it's on alot of them. In fact, One of the pieces I sold back in April was an 1884-O with some fairly dark toning. While I'm not 100% certain about that particular piece, I think I saw it for sale and now about 70% of the toning has been dipped off and it really doesn't look all that appealing anymore.

So my question to the group is: would you say anything? This particular shop usually doesn't have what I normally collect... Large Cents...VF-AU IHCs... and US Type for my 7070. Morgan Dollars was about the only thing they routinely stock that held my interest...that and [when I have extra money] $5 gold pieces. Unfortunately, they're the only shop in town. I suppose I could just go in and look. Hopefully they'll get more pieces in and perhaps the odd piece for my type set but I'feel like I'm in a quandry...thoughts?

mrpotatoheadd

<< <i>So my question to the group is: would you say anything? >>

Me? No, I wouldn't. I'd just buy whatever coins (if any) were up to my standards and forget about the rest. If the coins are dipped, the dealer obviously knows it and is okay with it. Unless he asks why I don't like the coins (and assuming that's the reason I passed on them), I don't see any point in getting into a potential confrontation over the issue- it's not likely to be any more productive than criticizing his grading.

19Lyds

If it bothers you then say something otherwise just move along.

ColonialCoinUnion

What would you say?

Bochiman

Would I say something?
Yep.

HOW I said it would depend on the person and how I felt about them.

BRdude

It's hard to dip PART of the toning off a coin. I guess it can be done. Not sure.
edited to add, Like was said above, only pick what you like, look, and move on.

TwoSides2aCoin

Strike up the same conversation that you typed in to words, with him, in his shop. Print off the thread. Discuss the issues that face our hobby. How dipping and toning , cleaning and all that affects you, coins, the validity of the coins and the integrity of the actions with them. Speak of the purist type collectors and and and and You'll feel better and he might like you that much more. Ask him what he thinks, and let him find the solutions. Then commend him for taking the right path.

charley

I answer your question with a question: if you were at a coin show with multiple Dealers, you would most likely, by law of averages, encounter this type of issue. Would you stop at every Dealers' table and comment about the shortcomings of their various wares? I don't think so. You would continue searching until you found what suited you. Your quandry(read ethic) is one of integrity. You have it, the Dealer doesn't, move on, and search for a more comfortable venue to buy your coins. The loudest voice of disastisfaction is not buying the Dealers' merchandise. Regards and Respectfully, John Curlis

mozin

Why bother? The dealer is doing exactly what he pleases.

SamByrd

I would not say anything. Many dealers enhance there coins for sale. Not right but it is common.

Bochiman

<< <i>Why bother? The dealer is doing exactly what he pleases. >>



It depends on the dealer...you are right in that they will do what they please but some of them may not be thinking anyone likes undipped coins.
My local dealer, when I went in to look at toned Roosies for my son, said "oh really? I normally just dip them all to make them white...that's what people around here like. I'll start keeping some toned ones for you to look at".

So, sometimes, saying something may help. Again, depends HOW it is said as well as HOW it is received.

roadrunner

Many coin are unsaleable when toned in an ugly fashion, esp commems and Morgans where either nice color or pure whiteness is envied. In those choices it may do no harm to the coin and possibly increase its value. Local B&M shops dip coins all the time. If a shop says they don't do it, you probably found a liar.

roadrunner

VTCoins

<< <i>What would you say? >>



I agree. The dealer is free to do whatever he wants to his coins.

Just buy what you like and pass on what you don't.

ajia

...would you say anything???

I would, and have.
But I say is as a question, " I really like this coin, but do you think it was dipped?" or cleaned, or whatever.

At the local B&M, which deals mostly in common circ. coins, the dealer has always verified to me what I thought of the coin.
Sure they sell cleaned coins, unfortunately they don't list that on the holder, but all you need to ask.
The answer to my question is just as important as what they have to sell. Are they there to help or RIP?

Smittys

Lots of dealers dip coins to enhance them, however sounds like he
forgot to rinse them after.
Just ask him if he has any natural coins, let him know you know they're dipped.

On the other hand at 10.00, I would buy every morgan he has for sale, put them on ebay and
get 13.00 to 14.00 a piece and use the profit to buy a nice slabbed coin