"Pedigreed Coins" - This turned into a very interesting thread.

RegistryCoin

Let me know if you collect pedigreed coins. Thank you.

solid

I would like to, but they often (usually?) sell for way more than the coin itself is worth and that often-quoted rule of "buy the coin, not the slab" comes into play here.

Ken

RegistryCoin

Well, you may be right. I know that my pedigree about doubles the values in my mind, (right there with the playgrounds.)

I just got back my 145 piece commem set from the pedigree dept. of pcgs, and, I just don't know what to do with the "extra". Its only a 6, but fortunately, shot 7 and beautiful.
I only want double 7 money for it (because it "will go 7", still be "solid to high end", and it has my name on it).

kyleknap

What is it?

RegistryCoin

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RegistryCoin

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RegistryCoin

oopsie-

RegistryCoin

daisy, sorry.

RegistryCoin

Oh, I thought you'd never ask. It is the highest end 35/4s 6, not yet in a 7 holder.

Total Mintage: 2,004
PCGS has graded 484 of this issue (there will be dupes) Pop in 7: two, with 50 in 6. What's trends on the two 7s?
Ngc has graded 282, and has (3) 8s, (8) 7s, and (46) 6s, (47) including the Eliasberg.
So, about a third of all minted have already been slabbed.
There are (2) pcgs 7s and (3) ngc 8s.
Whether or not it gets into a 7 holder, you must admit it's a rare coin. (And its a beaut, too)

Coinguy

Wow, any way we can see a scan maybe?
Mike

Swan

I enjoy identifying coins that have lost an important pedigree. I have a number a number of them in my collection.
JSwan

RegistryCoin

What do you mean "lost their pedigree"? You mean coins that used to be pedigreed and have been cracked out? How are you sure they were pedigreed? Did you crack 'em out? I guess I'm not sure what you mean. Sorry for my ignorance, Swan. I've missed all those ads on ebay selling coins that lost their pedigree. Please explain.

Swan

Yes, I'm referring to coins that were cracked out or not pedigreed at the time they were slabbed. I identify them from old auction catalogs and verify the coin and pedigree with dealers that were familiar with the coin.
These are low pop coins that have not been altered since Norweb or whoever owned them. For example, I found the 1795 O-110 flowing hair half dollar at the last ANA convention from the Norweb sale in 1988. It is now in an MS63 PCGS holder, and sold raw in '88 as MS60, prooflike. JSwan

RegistryCoin

That is totally cool, Swan. What a neat niche. I'm sure you have to have been watching the entire numismatic market very carefully for a very long time. Tell us more, please.

BTW, gang, the p6 '35/4s is now unavailable. Thanks for the PMs.

PS. Laura S., Do you remember this coin from the 7-7-6 set? I think I remember last July, I believe, that you, or perhaps George, said you hadn't tried the coin at all. I've only tried it once, so far.

PPS. Don't worry, Laura.
The coin was claimed by the guy who already has the p & d, so the "set" is still intact, just not consecutive anymore.
(You don't really think I'd allow the family to be split up, do you?)

RegistryCoin

I've been thinking about what you do, Swan. Most interesting. You have a very special niche in the market all to yourself (I'd assume), and even if one would wanted to compete with you within your given niche, they would have to have extensive knowledge and vast "hands on" and research experience, as I assume you do. This is a most interesting, and probably very telling, but unknown (to me), portion of numismatics.
My hat's off to you, Swan. If you would like, I am sure we could learn much from you, and would really enjoy listening to your stories, while we wouldn't have the slightest ability to learn enough to enter or compete in your particular chosen market niche. I am very impressed and curious.

PS. Sorry, all. I can't for the life of me get my scanner to work.

ModMan

RC: You own the finest 144 Commemorative set on the planet... buy a NEW scanner! *Sheeeeeeesh*

RegistryCoin

It's not the scanner. I just can't figure how to use it and send stuff. Very frustrating.

ModMan

So basically what you own is an oversized paperweight.

RegistryCoin

yea, but it looks real cool next to the printer/fax/scanner/copier paperweight next to it, that I can't figure out either.

tradedollarnut

I like to go back and research the pedigrees of the trade dollars in my set. Occasionally I also identify others, too. For instance, the uncirculated 1795 dollar in Stack's next sale is not identified as such, but matches the plate for the James A Stack coin.

braddick

Ah, Trade Dollars. Just lighter, smaller paperweights.

RegistryCoin

Tradedollarnut. This is new to me, and seems very sophisticated. So you understand what Swan is doing? You do the same thing?

tradedollarnut

One of the great things about coin collecting is looking at great coins and dreaming. You can accomplish this quite well with famous catalogs and other significant sales (like the 80's apostrophe sales). I enjoy browsing and looking at significant coins (not just those trade $ paperweights) of past collections. Then, every once in awhile, I recognize a significant coin from a past sale - the Stack coin above or the Amon Carter 75-S trade dollar that was in the Time Capsule sale a while back - not pedigreed but definitely his coin (ended up MS68!).

RegistryCoin

Thanks tradedollarnut! You can discuss this stuff anytime you'd like.