Post your oldest RED copper/bronze!

Let's see 'em!
Don't worry if your oldest isn't that old.. it was probably still cheaper than a Lightside piece of the same year!
Asking for full red might be a stretch, so RBs are fine too.
Here's mine (seller's pics):
Holland, 1 duit, 1739
Don't worry if your oldest isn't that old.. it was probably still cheaper than a Lightside piece of the same year!

Asking for full red might be a stretch, so RBs are fine too.
Here's mine (seller's pics):
Holland, 1 duit, 1739

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<< <i>Let's see 'em!
Don't worry if your oldest isn't that old.. it was probably still cheaper than a Lightside piece of the same year!
Asking for full red might be a stretch, so RBs are fine too.
Here's mine (seller's pics):
Holland, 1 duit, 1739
I love those Hol. pieces.
I suspect our patriarch had a few of those jingling in his leather purse when he sailed from Rotterdam in 1750 to hoe the ground in the "English Colonies".
Mine would presently be a 1773/3 Geo III farthing, but the pics are elsewhere.
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and one of the same year in original black:
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spoon that super looking duit has such a lot of luster and red for its age.
Hers a couple of mine.
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Out of my old stuff I only have one that displays any red. Not a full red (please forgive me), but still pretty nice for a 218-year-old hunk o' copper
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I have a couple of these honkers too. One from the same year as yours.
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(This was one of my bigger purchases lately...)
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There's plenty of other eye candy here, too.
My oldest red one I can recall was a 1799 British halfpenny in an ANACS MS63 RB holder (which I bought from ajaan and sold to Mongoose, thereby giving it quite the Darkside forum pedigree). As I recall, it had a lot of red on it- just shy of the amount necessary for a full RD designation.
I've also had one or two high grade duits like those beauties you've posted, but probably not quite UNCs. More like RB AU pieces. One wonders how those things survived like that (yours in particular).
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This 1/2 kreuzer with graffiti, that later became property of lordmarcovan, has got to be the oldest red brown coin that I owned.
The 1819 Ionian islands proof 2 oboli and proof one obolare a close second and among the oldest keepers of my collection.
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Here's the counterpart to your 1/2 kreuzer:
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WHAT IF...
Some Roman person in the first century AD took a brand-new sestertius coin (or several of them), and decided to hide them away.
Just imagine these big, fat, ornate, gorgeous bronzes in a fresh, pristine, full mint red condition!
Quite a thought, ain't it? Wow.
So to hide the coin(s) away, our hypothetical Roman, as most of his contemporaries do, puts them in a small jar or earthenware crock as usual, but with a twist...
Suppose, for whatever reason, he decided to seal the coins in wax. A real pure beeswax, or something else completely airtight.
And there they lay concealed, for two millennia.
Until one day, somebody digs up the container, carefully melts or removes the wax (or whatever), and reveals the full-Red UNC sestertii.
It could happen, right? I mean, there are surviving red-UNC coins from 200-300 years ago, as this thread bears witness. Why not red UNC ancient bronzes? It should be theoretically possible, if unlikely.
Just a random numismatic daydream...
<< <i>A random, hypothetical situation came to my wandering mind yesterday.
WHAT IF...
Some Roman person in the first century AD took a brand-new sestertius coin (or several of them), and decided to hide them away.
Just imagine these big, fat, ornate, gorgeous bronzes in a fresh, pristine, full mint red condition!
Quite a thought, ain't it? Wow.
So to hide the coin(s) away, our hypothetical Roman, as most of his contemporaries do, puts them in a small jar or earthenware crock as usual, but with a twist...
Suppose, for whatever reason, he decided to seal the coins in wax. A real pure beeswax, or something else completely airtight.
And there they lay concealed, for two millennia.
Until one day, somebody digs up the container, carefully melts or removes the wax (or whatever), and reveals the full-Red UNC sestertii.
It could happen, right? I mean, there are surviving red-UNC coins from 200-300 years ago, as this thread bears witness. Why not red UNC ancient bronzes? It should be theoretically possible, if unlikely.
Just a random numismatic daydream... >>
Now that would be the "mother of all Roman coins!"
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<< <i>A random, hypothetical situation came to my wandering mind yesterday.
WHAT IF...
Some Roman person in the first century AD took a brand-new sestertius coin (or several of them), and decided to hide them away.
Just imagine these big, fat, ornate, gorgeous bronzes in a fresh, pristine, full mint red condition!
Quite a thought, ain't it? Wow.
So to hide the coin(s) away, our hypothetical Roman, as most of his contemporaries do, puts them in a small jar or earthenware crock as usual, but with a twist...
Suppose, for whatever reason, he decided to seal the coins in wax. A real pure beeswax, or something else completely airtight.
And there they lay concealed, for two millennia.
Until one day, somebody digs up the container, carefully melts or removes the wax (or whatever), and reveals the full-Red UNC sestertii.
It could happen, right? I mean, there are surviving red-UNC coins from 200-300 years ago, as this thread bears witness. Why not red UNC ancient bronzes? It should be theoretically possible, if unlikely.
Just a random numismatic daydream... >>
And then they would get body bagged as modern day counterfeits...
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dime. My oldest US
detecting find so far.
I dig almost every
signal I get for the most
part. Go figure...
But they weren't original red, of course. Some of them were red-brown, just like a more "modern" RB AU-UNC coin would look, but of course I doubt the "red" could possibly be "original" after over 1,500 years.