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Cache of old coins found buried in Texas

Jack Suneson bought a downtown property on Commerce Street thinking it was a good spot for tourists to part with their money.
But someone had already parted with a stockpile of coins at the site — nearly 130 years ago.

'I'm holding history in my hand here,' Jack Suneson said of the coins that were discovered on his property on Commerce Street.


Suneson is a businessman from Nuevo Laredo who owns Marti's, a Mexican arts and crafts store. On Monday, a construction crew was digging up dirt to lay a foundation for Suneson's new store at 310 W. Commerce St.

A backhoe uncovered about 200 U.S. quarters, half dollars and silver dollars dating between 1852 and 1880. The crew also found a gold coin from that era.

The value of the coins largely depends on their condition, and many are green with corrosion. Suneson said he doesn't expect to make a fortune selling the hoard. He's more interested in the mystery of how the coins wound up underground, forgotten.

"We theorize these were buried under some sort of floorboard or something," Suneson said.

The hoarder might have lived around 1880 because the most recent coin was a Morgan Silver Dollar dated that year.

"Usually, people hide coins like that because it's an illegal stash, or they're afraid of putting their money in the bank," said Ron Guth, president of Professional Coin Grading Service in Newport Beach, Calif.

The stash included about 100 Morgan Silver Dollars, which are named after the coins' designer.

Butch Muennink, owner of Alamo Heights Coin Shop in San Antonio, said a well-preserved Morgan Silver Dollar could probably fetch between $12 and $18 today. It might be worth more depending on other factors, such as where it was minted.

If corrosion "pitted" the coins — or ate away at the metal — the value would be drastically reduced, Muennink added.

Harry Shafer, a retired archaeology professor from Texas A&M University who was hired by Suneson as a consultant, said finding buried money at a construction site is unusual.

"Listen, I've been in archaeology for 45 years," Shafer said. "I've done lots of projects. But I've never come across anything quite like this."

Suneson imagines that someone tucked away coin after coin over the years, making sacrifices to save for the future. "It's really tragic that they might have passed away and never told anybody," he said. "And the family never got to use it."

Suneson said he plans to clean the coins that can be saved and display them in his new store.



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    Ugh!
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


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    love to see some pics.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭


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    My thoughts exactly. All of this, and nobody has instructed him NOT to clean them?

    Da da da daaaaa.....NCS to the rescue?......right.

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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Funny how cleaning such coins is the first thing that most people think needs to be done. In reality, that is exactly what needs to be done to arrest the corrosion, but of course done properly. That era is a good one. I can think of a number of great quarters particularly that would be cool to find in that cache.
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  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭


    << <i>love to see some pics. >>


    A picture can be found in this article.

    Matt


  • << <i>Suneson said he plans to clean the coins that can be saved and display them in his new store.
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    << <i>My thoughts exactly. All of this, and nobody has instructed him NOT to clean them?

    Da da da daaaaa.....NCS to the rescue?......right. >>



    Hopefully, the "Butch Muennink, owner of Alamo Heights Coin Shop in San Antonio" is in direct contact with Suneson, and can give adequate council regarding this. I don't know how knowledgeable archaeologists, like the Harry Shafer he's hired as consultant, are in this area. Cool story, thanks for sharing!

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    << <i>love to see some pics. >>


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    Oh. It's an article. Wonder why michigan didn't mention that. Or provide the attribution.
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I hope there's some better date CC's in the hoard. image
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hope there's some better date CC's in the hoard. image >>

    Based on its location, I'd imagine most of the branch mint stuff will be New Orleans coins. It doesn't seem too likely that many CC-minted coins would have been in Texas by 1880.
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  • No word from Barndog...he must be out there with his sand bucket and shovel. image
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I'm on a half acre in central Texas as well, in a town that was founded in 1856. My house wasn't built until 1944, but I wonder if anything else was here before this house was erected here. Maybe I need to get a metal detector and look through the yard. I'll probably find little more than rusted beer cans, though. The oldest "find" I've made was something like a 1972 dime so far.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    My brother in laws Dad buried his "stash" (because he didn't trust banks) under his house in Abilene!

    You might wanna check under your house. Provided, of course, that you can keep the scorpions, black widows and brown recluse's at bay!
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool, I see a seated 50c.
  • All I found during my time in San Antonio was old Shiner Bock beer caps.
  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is an old story in Europe where ancient coin caches keep being found.

    The guy who left the Texas coins probably didn't trust banks or was worried about bandits.

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a bunch of smelter grade crap to me.
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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the guy's property where the coins were found is on Commerce St, he needs to walk down the street to Royalty Coins to get a good assessment of them. I live in San Antonio, and of the three coin shops here, Alamo Heights Coins is by far the worst. I've been in there a couple times, and was extremely disappointed both times.

    Edited to add: I just looked it up on Mapquest, and the address listed in the article for the location of the find, is 1/2 mile from Royalty Coins.


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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would laugh if the press made a big deal out of a bunch of corroded 1880 Morgans, while overlooking a small pile of 1873-cc NA quarters and 1874-CC dimes. Of course, if the news people found a really rare piece in there, they'd surely have to flip it in the air during their broadcast, so better not tell them anything.
  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Damn! They discovered my stash!
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    << <i>No word from Barndog...he must be out there with his sand bucket and shovel. image >>



    San Antonio's Royalty Coins is right near the location of the "find" so I'm sure they will help the lucky owner decide what's suitable for display and what's suitable for preservation and sale.
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    If it was in Texas...maybe there could be some CCs in there!

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