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1972-D DDR Eisenhower Dollar/Rarity and value information wanted



Just how collectable are these?

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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭✭
    Zero premium.
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    misterRmisterR Posts: 2,305 ✭✭


    Even in MS65?
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    << <i>Zero premium. >>



    I dont think that this is correct. It may be tougher to find the right buyers, but Ikes are becoming more collectible. Some proof versions with die doubling are priced in the $100.00 to $400.00 range.

    DDOs and DDRs on circulation coinage are not as well known but some new literature on the subject is out and there should be a little more interest in them.

    The Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars by Wexler, Crawford and Flynn will likely create some demand for these.

    Thanks,
    Bill
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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Zero premium. >>



    I dont think that this is correct. It may be tougher to find the right buyers, but Ikes are becoming more collectible. Some proof versions with die doubling are priced in the $100.00 to $400.00 range.

    DDOs and DDRs on circulation coinage are not as well known but some new literature on the subject is out and there should be a little more interest in them.

    The Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars by Wexler, Crawford and Flynn will likely create some demand for these.

    Thanks,
    Bill >>



    With the exception of RDV-006, peg leg, and one of the big 1971S proofs, I've not ever seen a DDR or DDO sell for much of a premium if any at all. Until PCGS starts recognizing some of the biggies, I do not think any of them will explode in the near future.

    I have been wrong once or twice before though. image
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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Is it DDR-001 (1-R-I-CW Medium spread on all rim lettering, stars, earth, and craters)

    or

    DDR-002 (2-R-II-C Light spread on all letters and stars around rim, and on earth) which is ALSO DDO-001 (1-O-II-C (3) Light spread on IN GOD WE TRUST with tripling on 1 of date)?

    or

    the non-CONECA DDO1/DDR1?

    These are easily worth double to triple to quadruple (depending on which variety and who certified it) of a non-DDR/DDO in lower grades but an ever decreasing premium (in percentage terms) in higher grades - IF YOU GET THEM CERTIFIED AS TO THE VARIETY - and since none are Cherrypickers and one is non-CONECA that means at best ANACS for 2 of them and probably SEGS (best bet) for the third.

    Just as an example and a rule of thumb:

    I'd pay 5 times PCGS price guide for the MS65 DDO1/DDR1 ANACS plate coin (there's only that one certified and I think they stopped ALL non-CONECA variety attribution - but you might want to check with them) but maybe only 25%-50% over that for the others in that grade yet probably double in MS63, triple in MS62, etc.

    I'd agree with Rampage that (if you had a PCGS MS67 72-D w/the variety I'd pay almost no premium (maybe 5% MAX) given the already high price but would still attribute some premium (10-20%) if it were a $300 66 (as per the price guide) AND it were certified.

    The problem is, it's only worth that to a real specialist.

    The other problem is NONE of the above are Cherrypickers.

    Only 3 71-S's, 1 72-S, & 1 73-S are (plus the pegleg of course). These carry similar to higher to MUCH higher (FS-015.8) premiums AND to much wider audiences (depending on which and what grade).

    And YES, PCGS DOES slab the following 5 Cherrypickers (note: all CONECA unless noted not - AND - "C1" - i.e. clad - used instead of "S1" - i.e. silver - after the "FS-" to be consistent with the APPENDIX of the Cherrypicker guide):

    FS-C1-1971S-103 - i.e. DDO3 - (and always slabbed it as the former FS-015.8),
    FS-C1-1971S-106 - i.e. DDO6 (non-CONECA),
    FS-C1-1971S-501 - i.e. RPM#1 S/S,
    FS-C1-1972S-101 - DDO1 (non-CONECA), & the
    FS-C1-1973S-101 - DDO1 (non-CONECA).

    Heck, PCGS will even slab the FS-C1-1971S-401 Polished Die (i.e.) pegleg. image


    btw, Rampage, you don't know Jack Schitt about the values of these imageimageimage

    I'll take all you got if they're certified at ZERO PREMIUM. imageimage
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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>btw, Rampage, you don't know Jack Schitt about the values of these imageimageimage

    I'll take all you got if they're certified at ZERO PREMIUM. imageimage >>



    Can you show us any that have sold for the premiums you have mentioned, other than the few varieties I mentioned specific? The FS-015.8 was the one big 71S proof DDO I was talking about-also the peg leg with DDO on the business strike.
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    I find i get a decent premium for any IKE DD's on Teletrade.

    This being the most recent. Note that it is not FS-15.8
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    misterRmisterR Posts: 2,305 ✭✭

    Thanks for all the information-especially RBin Tex.

    I was being lazy--I got out my Eisenhower Dollar book by Wexler, Crawford and Flynn.
    (Bought it back in 1999 and has been on the bookshelf)
    There was the information, DDR-001/DDO-001

    Gives a value of $25 in MS60, $60 MS63 and $90 in MS65.

    Guess I'll have it graded and try selling it on the bay.

    Thanks again.


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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    I'd recommend sending it to PCGS (for the grade) and then to Wiles for a certification of the variety. This way, you'll have it in a top tier slab and an accompanying letter from Wiles (a top expert) verifying the variety. I think this is a better path then sending it to SEGS (e.g.) to get it graded AND have the variety noted.

    Might be a bit of a waste of time though if that's the only coin you have to submit AND it doesn't grade AT LEAST MS65 from PCGS (preferably MS66 to really make the plan viable in light of the time/costs involved).

    p.s. Rampage, when I have the time I'll try to ferret out some past sales but I remeber selling the FS-015.8 in a PCGS 66DCAM for near $400 on eBay about a year ago. I remeber at the time it was the highest known to be graded.

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    misterRmisterR Posts: 2,305 ✭✭


    And 7 months later here it is!

    1972-D Ike DDO and DDR NGC MS66

    Was it worth it?

    I think it is a very interesting Ike.
    Only stronger doubled die on an Ike I have seen is the 1971-S proof.
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    misterRmisterR Posts: 2,305 ✭✭


    No bids yet but 10 watchers.

    Hoping for a fast and furious end to this auction!

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