PSA Unveils New Custom Disk Holder and Re-Holder Special

SportsModerator2

PSA has been working hard to increase the number of custom holders during the past several months and the latest addition to the PSA holder family is one that can house collectible disks. The new PSA holder offers a much better presentation and fit for those of you who collect these great oddball issues. For those of you would already have PSA graded disks in your collection or inventory, PSA will be offering a special $2 re-holder fee (per card) through October 15th, 2007.

MooseDog

Maybe a stupid question, but I have a couple of "regular" cards I'd like to submit for reholdering...can these be submitted for this "special" or just disks?

sfmays24

Hi Carol,

Does this mean I can finally submit my old (okay very old) LP's?

Mike

SportsModerator2

<< <i>Maybe a stupid question, but I have a couple of "regular" cards I'd like to submit for reholdering...can these be submitted for this "special" or just disks? >>



Since this is a disk special the answer would be....this is only for disks.

Here is a link to the article on the homepage.

Carol

onlyanumber

Awesome Carol! Now I can send my Chilly Willees back in...

prscott933

excellent, my kitty clover discs will look great in those. thanks!

roastedcat

Carol what do you mean by disks? Floppy? CD's, Lp's can you show us a photo, I haven't a clue what your refering too?

thanks

roastedcat

Never mind, I scrolled too fast and didn't see the link.




It looks like a regular postcard holder what's so different about it?

TheVon

Carol,

Does PSA have disk holders for the smaller 7-11 coins too or is it just for the larger sized coins?

Thank you.

roastedcat

the 7-11 coins will go into a regular standard size holder. I recently did a submission and requested some to be added in a coin holder for collectibility, but weren't graded. They said the holder will bend the edges and will need to go into regular card slabs. It would be cool if PSA would create coin holder for cards.

yankeeno7

Any plans to revise and improve the game used holders?

SportsModerator2

I'm not privy to what may be coming so I can't answer the questions about what new holders may be in the works.

Carol

originalisbest

Very nice looking holder. Would be sweet if one similar, but smaller could be developed for Colgan's Chips and the like.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>PSA has been working hard to increase the number of custom holders during the past several months and the latest addition to the PSA holder family is one that can house collectible disks. The new PSA holder offers a much better presentation and fit for those of you who collect these great oddball issues. For those of you would already have PSA graded disks in your collection or inventory, PSA will be offering a special $2 re-holder fee (per card) through October 15th, 2007. >>



Thats great Carol but why would they be "working hard" to make more slabs for other cards when the "modified" slabs for memorabilia cards are the worst in the business?

I am big into the registries and have been a psa supporter for some time but you have to admit, having a card that moves up and down, front to back and all over the place cant be to good. The cards will be damaged just by normal handling. I sent in a sub of "thick" cards last month. The way the cards are in the slabs, they can move a quarter of an inch in all directions. This is not an exaggeration! If I wasnt doing a registry, I would have sent them back for the ol' N-6. I know guys that dont submit to psa for this reason.

You guys are losing a ton of business because the new slabs are junk. Maybe you can say something to "someone" so they can be improved and resolve this issue instead of making more slabs that dont protect the cards as they should

tennesseebanker

SportsModerator2

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<< <i>PSA has been working hard to increase the number of custom holders during the past several months and the latest addition to the PSA holder family is one that can house collectible disks. The new PSA holder offers a much better presentation and fit for those of you who collect these great oddball issues. For those of you would already have PSA graded disks in your collection or inventory, PSA will be offering a special $2 re-holder fee (per card) through October 15th, 2007. >>



Thats great Carol but why would they be "working hard" to make more slabs for other cards when the "modified" slabs for memorabilia cards are the worst in the business?

I am big into the registries and have been a psa supporter for some time but you have to admit, having a card that moves up and down, front to back and all over the place cant be to good. The cards will be damaged just by normal handling. I sent in a sub of "thick" cards last month. The way the cards are in the slabs, they can move a quarter of an inch in all directions. This is not an exaggeration! If I wasnt doing a registry, I would have sent them back for the ol' N-6. I know guys that dont submit to psa for this reason.

You guys are losing a ton of business because the new slabs are junk. Maybe you can say something to "someone" so they can be improved and resolve this issue instead of making more slabs that dont protect the cards as they should >>



I like that you think I'm higher on the totem pole than I really am
E-mail your concerns to Joe; he's really the only one that could address them or tell you if anything different will be coming in the future.

Carol

tennesseebanker

I think Carol is Speechless !

lawnmowerman

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<< <i>PSA has been working hard to increase the number of custom holders during the past several months and the latest addition to the PSA holder family is one that can house collectible disks. The new PSA holder offers a much better presentation and fit for those of you who collect these great oddball issues. For those of you would already have PSA graded disks in your collection or inventory, PSA will be offering a special $2 re-holder fee (per card) through October 15th, 2007. >>



Thats great Carol but why would they be "working hard" to make more slabs for other cards when the "modified" slabs for memorabilia cards are the worst in the business?

I am big into the registries and have been a psa supporter for some time but you have to admit, having a card that moves up and down, front to back and all over the place cant be to good. The cards will be damaged just by normal handling. I sent in a sub of "thick" cards last month. The way the cards are in the slabs, they can move a quarter of an inch in all directions. This is not an exaggeration! If I wasnt doing a registry, I would have sent them back for the ol' N-6. I know guys that dont submit to psa for this reason.

You guys are losing a ton of business because the new slabs are junk. Maybe you can say something to "someone" so they can be improved and resolve this issue instead of making more slabs that dont protect the cards as they should >>



I like that you think I'm higher on the totem pole than I really am
E-mail your concerns to Joe; he's really the only one that could address them or tell you if anything different will be coming in the future.

Carol >>



pm sent Carol

Thanks

matt

tennesseebanker

lawnmowerman

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I love everyone!





Even you Barry

lawnmowerman

On second thought, how about Joe come on here and talk to all of us. I think That might be better.


I know Im not the only one with these concerns.


Thank you, drive thru

lawnmowerman

Thank you Carol for Joe's email addy.

I emailed him, giving him a link to this thread, asking him to reply and address mine and alot of other psa member's concerns about the memorabilia slabs.

Matt

lawnmowerman

Joe, Here is an example of the poor quality of these slabs. The card on the right moves like crazy. Look at the gap at the bottom of the card. If you felt the way this card bounces around, you would just shake your head in dis-belief, Front to back, up and down.

There are other non-die cut cards from my recent sub that move the same way. Craziness!

originalisbest

In fairness to the slabs, they look nice - a lot better than the aesthetically displeasing "plastic condom." - it seems the fault lies more with the innumerable funky shapes the limited-run memorabilia cards come in? Not sure what the ideal solution is, you can't make holders to custom fit a thing only 2-3 people might submit examples of.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>In fairness to the slabs, they look nice - a lot better than the aesthetically displeasing "plastic condom." - it seems the fault lies more with the innumerable funky shapes the limited-run memorabilia cards come in? Not sure what the ideal solution is, you can't make holders to custom fit a thing only 2-3 people might submit examples of. >>



originalisbest,

Have you sub'd any memorabilia cards? Probably not because of what your saying. Im my previous post I said;



<< <i>There are other non-die cut cards from my recent sub that move the same way. >>



This stupidness is not just limited to the die cut cards. Its with most memorabilia cards. Out of the 8 cards in my sub, 7 bounce all over but only 2 were the die cut cards you see pictured. Other members have told me they would not send their cards in because of these garbage slabs and some have even sub'd to Beckett. My goal here is to let psa know these slabs suck and need to be addressed.

Im not just saying this because I am bored and need something to do. I would like my cards protected when I pay good money to have them slabbed. Perhaps PSA is still "buzzed" from the registry sensation and is forgetting about what is really important, putting a top notch service out there with well designed products.

While I applaud you for "sticking up" for psa, please before you comment, know the facts

Matt

originalisbest

OK, but as I say, it looks like you're putting them in between a rock and hard place? Correct me if I'm wrong but are the examples you've shown (totally irregular shapes) pretty typical of what to expect? Or, if most things are regular rectangles, and perhaps a bit thick compared to most cards, with only a few exceptions - then I agree these slab tolerances should be closer and not allow such banging around. It seems like PSA was trying to come up with a holder that would fit as many possible variations as they could think of.

Not particularly sticking up for PSA; I agree I know little about this type of card, as I don't collect them. If I were as unhappy as you seem to be with the design, I simply wouldn't send any more in, and I'd voice my complaint to PSA, as you have. Beckett does the "condom" thing and to me that couldn't be uglier - it does prevent the bouncing, albeit it also squeezes corners, and I imagine this might be really evident on a thicker card.

Please don't be too hard on me for not knowing "all the facts", as it's hard to know everything, and that never stopped me from voicing an opinion anyways. I TRY to be well-informed.

originalisbest

Oh, as I said, I've never submitted any memo cards, and don't collect them, so I know squat. In my work, I often deal with interesting package design and tolerances, so was speaking from that perspective - wondering aloud why they would make the holder the way they did. Just say no to condoms! (Man I hate that look.)

CDsNuts

If I were in Matt's shoes and grading modern thick cards, I'd rather have the cards sent back to me ungraded with a refund rather than paying to have them placed in a slab that could damage them (regardless of what grades they receive). As customers of PSA, we're not just paying to have the cards graded. We're also paying to have them placed in a holder that will protect them for the long haul. If the cards are moving around as much as Matt says, I wouldn't exactly say he's getting his money's worth. As a business owner, if I can't do something right, I tell my customers I can't do it rather than do a shotty job and lose their business forever.

Lee

roastedcat

I'm surprised that PSA slabbed that chunk of metal!

metalmike

What Matt said. There is nothing WORSE than a card that USED to be a PSA 10.

lawnmowerman

originalisbest,

Its cool. I tried to say what I had to say to you without it sounding rude. No matter how I put it still sounded that way but that was not my intent.

While the slab does look good, the protection factor is horrible. Regular psa slabs allow the cards to slide around from side to side and top to bottom. That in itself is not good but not nearly as bad these modified pack holders. They allow cards to move from front to back too. Turn the slab over to look at the cards back and the card actually tumbles to the front of the slab. This has nothing to do with it being die cut. It has do to with the inserts being too wide and not close enough to the cards front and back surface. Its just not holding the card snug.

If you held these things in your hand, I have no doubt you would agree with everything Im saying.

rube26105

if they would just put em in a sleeve first before they slab em, that would take care of alot of it right there,like the one you have on the left,if it was in a penny holder,then smushed,it would not move near as much i wouldnt think, could be wrong,worth a try anyway,i have some of these frissbeees as well, mine are regsized and not off sized like matts,but the do movearound alot,i have one slab the is 10x6 inches if u wanna talk about overkill, but it is in a sleeve inside of the slab!
randy

originalisbest

They just didn't do a good enough job with the tolerances, I suppose. I'm sure I would agree with you if I held one. All's good here.

AlanAllen

Sounds like they didn't retool the pack holder enough to compensate for the fact that cards are smaller than wax packs

originalisbest

Sounds like that would be it, I'd agree. If it was a matter of not tooling up another holder or insert, and trying to "make do" with the pack holders, that is a typical cost-savings, but costly, move.

lawnmowerman

I'm just wondering when we can get some feedback from Joe on these slabs. I hate Beckett but if they can make a memorabilia slab that protects the cards without it moving all over, I know PSA can.

When someone sends a card in to be graded they are paying for a service. The dividends of that service are, increased value and "life long" protection for the cards. I see none of this with these memorabilia slabs.

detroitfan2

Matt,

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing PSA used the slabs from the "common" or "irrelevant" running back pile for your cards.

I have submitted several Barry Sanders, Dexter Bussey, Horace King, and Billy Sims memorabilia cards, and all the slabs fit like a glove.

-Tom

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Matt,

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing PSA used the slabs from the "common" or "irrelevant" running back pile for your cards.

I have submitted several Barry Sanders, Dexter Bussey, Horace King, and Billy Sims memorabilia cards, and all the slabs fit like a glove.

-Tom >>



Actually here is an interesting fact Tom. The operations manager at psa is also named Matt.

Guess what? Yup, you got it, he is also a huge Emmitt Smith fan. True but wierd story

Barry Sanders played football? I thought he was some fast food chicken tycoon?

lawnmowerman

:crickets chirping:

tennesseebanker

Why don't we all just start sending our cards to Sgc ? I think a %30 drop off in revenues for Psa would have someone asking questions you would get some answers to.

lawnmowerman

Hello Joe?

rube26105

hello matt-if they just put the weird cut white card in a penny saver first,then smushed it,it would not slide around,maybe joe is in deep thought about the whole thing?who's joe lol
randy

lawnmowerman

Hi Joe

I'll keep bumping this thread to the top so when you come to reply, it will be easy to find.

Thanks

Matt