What Does "Cameo DMPL" Mean?

ChuckC

In reference to this ANACS ebay auction.

I thought ANACS standards assigned the progression as "PL" to "DMPL" to "UDM".

RBinTex

These are all of ANAC's official designations involving proofs/prooflikes/cameos/heavy cameos/ultra deep haevy cameos, etc.:

BP: Brown and proof-like
-P: Red and brown and proof-like
RP: Red and proof-like

OC: Obverse cameo
OP: Obverse proof-like

PL: Proof-like

CM: Cameo
CP: Cameo and proof-like
CD: Cameo and deep mirror proof-like

OH: Obverse heavy cameo
HC: Heavy cameo
DM: Deep mirror proof-like
OD: Obverse deep mirror proof-like

OU: Obverse ultra deep mirror proof-like
UD: Ultra deep mirror proof-like

While way too many designations (IMO) it still seems like they left some out - ultra deep mirror proof-like heavy cameo, e.g.

They seem to try to quantify (or more accurately classify) the level of the prooflike(ness), i.e. proof-like, deep mirror prooflike, and ultra deep mirror proof-like as well as the level of the cameo(ness), i.e. cameo & heavy cameo, as well as note it when the coin only possesses one or more of these attibutes on the obverse as opposed to both sides. They apparently ignore coins with only these attibutes on the reverse. Clearly an incomplete system but still one that goes beyond PCGS & NGC (IMHO).

Their system also seems to leave the door open for a hybrid grade such as deep mirror proof-like (i.e. the whole coin - or both sides), (but just the) obverse heavy cameo, e.g.

To answer your question, look at the bold designation above.

ChuckC

Sounds like "Cameo DMPL" is a degree between DMPL and UD per ANACS?

JRocco

HighRelief

Anacs likes to see a good amount of frost before they give out the cameo designation. Cameo UDM's are the ultimate DMPL's, if you can find one.

jobiwan115

Wow! Brian, those coins must really be something to behold in-hand!

Steve27

DMPL - refers to the reflective quality of the fields

Cameo - refers to the amount of frost on the devices

JrGMan2004

I believe some will call a Morgan a PL or DMPL without there actually being any real cameo contrast on the devices, just by the depth of the mirrors. So a Cameo DMPL would be a coin with the mirror depth to be called a DMPL, but also exhibits cameo frost on the devices.

Steve27

If they still used the old style slabs, I would consider sending them this one:

sweetwilliet

Sounds like "Cameo DMPL" is a degree between DMPL and UD per ANACS?

No, DMPL and UDM are independent of the level of "cameo", or contrast between the mirrored fields and frosted devices. Steve27 explains it best above.

Wolf359

Some ANACS Cameo DMPL's can realize more than PCGS DMPL's of the same grade...same with ANACS UDM coins, as ANACS is the only service to do this.

Coxe

PL and DMPL only refer to the depth of the field mirrors. Cameo refers to the obvious contrast between the fields and devices. Not all prooflikes are cameos, in particular nearly all Morgans produced after 1900. Not all cameos are prooflikes. I have handled a number of brilliant cartwheel cameos, with frosty devices and not enough reflection in the fields to approach prooflike.

Myqqy

That cc morgan in the auction is SWEET!

ChuckC

<< <i>DMPL - refers to the reflective quality of the fields

Cameo - refers to the amount of frost on the devices >>



That explains it! And yes, the coin in the auction is DEFINITELY sweet!!