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China: filled die or known variety?

Found this in a group of Chinese coins. It's a ten cash from Kiang-nan (don't know the variety) but what makes it interesting is that it says TE CASH...there's no trace on the N in TEN. There's no loss of any detail near the place usually occupied by the N. Is this a filled die error or something more?

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  • I’m going to go out on a limb and attribute the coin as either C#140 (undated - ca 1902), or one of the 11 varieties Y#135-135.10 (ca 1902-1905). Those are the coins which appear to exhibit the very wide spacing of “T E N” we are looking at, even though the pictures in the new 35th Ed. 20th Century Krause are uniformly indistinct and of poor quality.

    There is no evidence of alteration apparent in the photo, making a grease-filled die the most likely explanation for the missing “N”, IMHO.
    Roy


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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    The coin is dated 1905. (Y135.9)

    Filled die sounds like a possibility.
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    Dating these is harder than Chinese arithmetic...hey wait, it is Chinese arithmetic.
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    It looks like there is some discoloration in the image in the spot where the missing N should be, it looks like a smudge. How does that area look under magnification?
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    The smudge was probably from me rubbing my fingernail on it to see if there was anything over the top of what was left of a letter...no, there's nothing at all where the N should be.
    "Have a nice day!"
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Well then, let's go with filled die.image
  • What about a counterfeit experiment ?!? In China in particular they have been doing this for many years to "perfect" the craft of counterfeiting and judging from recent discussions on these forums about fake coins from China (slabs as well) it is evident that............................................ya got one of 'em. This is usually the case when a group of VERY LOGICAL collectors and/or dealers on these boards cant seem to come to a reasonable explanation about the variance (especially when it comes to the china coins)!

    I'm sure I speak for all here when I say that it is an interesting coin to say the least! Enjoy it.....................
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I don't think it's fake. There are numerous varieties and many are poorly struck. There are also sorts of contemporary counterfeits as well. This one just doesn't seem like a modern fake.

    Then again, who knows? There are some very good quality fakes out there.
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