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The Rutgers story doesn't go away...

gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
When does it ever end? Damaged her character forever?

Rutgers-Imus

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my opinion it's another trial lawyer attempting to extort money through the legal system - which is a major reason for massive increased costs to consumers on many items. There is obviously no possibility of the lawyer winning this case in court, but CBS may settle it to prevent negative publicity. The lawyers win again and we lose. Insurance, medical costs, prices of goods and services continue to skyrocket, and the baseball card collecting lawyers get to buy the T206 Wagners with our money.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    What a bunch of crap - no other way to say it. Silly lawsuits like these will never stop, because there will always be greedy lawyers to concoct them.

    Obviously what Imus said was foolish, but enough already. This woman could walk past me at the mall, and I wouldn't know her from anyone else. It's not like people are pointing at her everywhere she goes and calling her names. If she doesn't make the connection herself, no one would even place her on the basketball team. And even then, no one with any intelligence thought what Imus said was anything more than an off-the-cuff joke gone bad. He shouldn't have said it, but there is no way any long-term permanent damage was done to those women.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a friggen joke, if anything her character or image should be hurt more by this ridiculas attempt at getting money
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't these ho's know that the pimp be handlin' the benjamins?
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i liked the lawsuit about the jude and the korean dry cleaners, lol-stoopid, no wonder out court systems are backed up so much
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Imus is an absolute jerk and his remarks on this matter were totally repugnant to me. That being said...I sincerely believe that in a way in which Imus didn't intend, he actually helped these girls for the future. I believe these girls are more likely to get a job when stating they were on the team that jackass Don Imus made his stupid remarks about.
  • I think that all broadcasters should get together and ban Imus from ever holding a job in radio again, similar to how some people feel Vick should never be allowed to step on a NFL field again. Imus was found guilty in the court of public opinion of racist comments, of defamation, and he was rightfully fired for his comments. Keep in mind this isn't the first time he was racially insensitive and showed his true colors as a racist.

    Broadcasting on our airwaves is a privilege, not a right!
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I occasionally had him on in the morning and enjoyed his interviews with certain politicos, authors and historians. However his jabber back and for with Bernie often was juvenile and embarrassing, bordering on disgusting at times. Very few folks are either all good or all bad and there is much good in Imus. His work with autism, the Imus ranch for kids with cancer and the rehab center in San Antonio for our troops are quick examples. How many of us have done so much good in our life times.

    I saw an interview with the gal's lawyer on CNN last night. As you would expect he is a typical shark, claiming it wasn't about money but all about restoring her and her teammates reputations. How ridiculous is that, all the publicity got them recognized and lots of sympathy and Imus had the guts to not only meet with them and apologize, but sat done with Sharpton and took his shots. How many of us would have done that.

    On a side note its been reported he is working out a deal with wabc and has settled with CBS. As I am want to say if you don't know what despicable things you are capable, then you don't really know yourself.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that all broadcasters should get together and ban Imus from ever holding a job in radio again, similar to how some people feel Vick should never be allowed to step on a NFL field again. Imus was found guilty in the court of public opinion of racist comments >>



    vick is possibly a criminal and inhumane person that profited from the physical torture of animals for entertainment purposes..

    don imus said something stupid..

    great comparison.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that all broadcasters should get together and ban Imus from ever holding a job in radio again, similar to how some people feel Vick should never be allowed to step on a NFL field again. Imus was found guilty in the court of public opinion of racist comments, of defamation, and he was rightfully fired for his comments. Keep in mind this isn't the first time he was racially insensitive and showed his true colors as a racist.

    Broadcasting on our airwaves is a privilege, not a right! >>




    Are you kidding me? I know you have been defending Vick since day one but I believed that it was just so you could get some good argument time in that you so love, but this is ridiculas! The difference here is Imus made a foolish comment, faced the music and apoligized, and took a financial hit. Vick ( if found guilty ) has not once owned up and admitted he was wrong and took part in something that can not be undone by apoligizing.
  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭
    Comparing Imus calling someone a nappy headed ho to the allegations against Vick of fighting, torturing and executing dogs is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard your dumb a$$ say.
    Travis
  • Any responsible, level headed judge will dismiss this lawsuit in a heartbeat. Since he didn't name her specifically how could she be injured
    in any way?

    It would be like someone trying to sue Mel Brooks for using the "N" word several times in Blazing Saddles.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Comparing Imus calling someone a nappy headed ho to the allegations against Vick of fighting, torturing and executing dogs is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard your dumb a$$ say. >>



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    He's just saying that to be argumentative.. No one in their right mind would ever or could ever make it a legit comparison.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any responsible, level headed judge will dismiss this lawsuit in a heartbeat. Since he didn't name her specifically how could she be injured
    in any way?

    It would be like someone trying to sue Mel Brooks for using the "N" word several times in Blazing Saddles. >>




    Good point and I think there's more as well...Courts look at public figures differently than "private people" and like it or not, these girls were public figures playing on TV and in front of thousands of people. So they are open to public opinion no matter how repugnant is that opinion. And an insult such as Imus gave by no legal means could possibly be "defamation of character."

    What this girl sorry to say doesn't comprehend is she could use this event with Imus to her career advantage...Now with this basically frivilous lawsuit, people are going to be rooting for Imus and CBS to win, including me, because although I'm not anti-lawyer, I am anti-scumbag lawyer, and in my opinion this lawyer is a scumbag lawyer...and I hope this POS scumbag lawyer doesn't win a dime with this extortion through the legal system.

    Hopefully now this girl isn't going to lose the sympathy of the public, and now be known as a someone trying to win some money through a frivilous lawsuit - Employers definitely don't like hiring people prone to filing lawsuits.
  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Comparing Imus calling someone a nappy headed ho to the allegations against Vick of fighting, torturing and executing dogs is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard your dumb a$$ say. >>



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    He's just saying that to be argumentative.. No one in their right mind would ever or could ever make it a legit comparison. >>



    It doesn't mean he isn't going to try.
    Travis
  • What do you mean they aren't legit comparisons? Both Vick and Imus were found guilty in the court of public opinion which I read here over and over and over is the only that matters. So using that same flawed reasoning, Imus should never be allowed to hold a job in broadcasting again. Hey there are plenty of other ways to make a living, right stown?

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Comparing Imus calling someone a nappy headed ho to the allegations against Vick of fighting, torturing and executing dogs is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard your dumb a$$ say. >>



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    He's just saying that to be argumentative.. No one in their right mind would ever or could ever make it a legit comparison. >>



    It doesn't mean he isn't going to try. >>



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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • That's what I thought...I was simply calling you out on your absolutely ridiculous stance on Vick (he should be banned for life!) and showing it is as ridiculous as expecting Imus to never work in broadcasting again.

    edit: spelling
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Vick brutally and viciously killed and made money off dogfighting. He should be banned for life but I'll be happy if he sits in a pen and off the field for several years.

    Imus said, in complete jest, "Nappy headed hos". Sharpton and Jackson had their day and now it's over.

    Yeah, great job calling me out, dope image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>Vick brutally and viciously killed and made money off dogfighting. He should be banned for life but I'll be happy if he sits in a pen and off the field for several years.

    Imus said, in complete jest, "Nappy headed hos". Sharpton and Jackson had their day and now it's over.

    Yeah, great job calling me out, dope image >>



    Give me a break. This wasn't the first time Imus let his true racist colors fly...it wasn't said 'in jest', and I have to wonder if perhaps you don't share his racist views. Wanting Vick, a black man, banned for life from pursuing his life's work for breaking the law while a white man can freely spew hateful, racist remarks shows to me all I need to know about you being as big a racist as Imus is.

  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Just an example of a poster here saying a stupid thing and unwilling or unable to own up to it. I really believe he (stitzen) in not capable of losing an argument for to do so would show he's human. image
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wanting Vick, a black man, banned for life from pursuing his life's work for breaking the law while a white man can freely spew hateful, racist remarks shows to me all I need to know about you being as big a racist as Imus is. >>



    Now I'm a racist?

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    Well done!

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭
    Whether Imus is a racist or not is irrelevant. Last time I checked, there was a freedom of speech that gives Imus the opportunity to say what he pleases, just as you have the right to say every stupid comment that has ever left your mouth (or keyboard).

    I don't think there's anything in the Bill of Rights that gives citizens the right to hold a dog in the air before smashing its head into the concrete because it was too weak to be a profitable cage fighter.
    Travis


  • << <i>Just an example of a poster here saying a stupid thing and unwilling or unable to own up to it. I really believe he (stitzen) in not capable of losing an argument for to do so would show he's human. image >>



    Nope, simply proving how stupid it is to say that Vick should be banned for life from football, and it truly is a moronic statement to say because someone broke the law they should be forced from their line of work.

  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    those poor Pit Bulls are such a precious and useful breed....
  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Just an example of a poster here saying a stupid thing and unwilling or unable to own up to it. I really believe he (stitzen) in not capable of losing an argument for to do so would show he's human. image >>



    Nope, simply proving how stupid it is to say that Vick should be banned for life from football, and it truly is a moronic statement to say because someone broke the law they should be forced from their line of work. >>



    So the thousands of inmates in prisons across the country have been unjustly forced from their careers just because they broke the law? Isn't it within the right of the employer not to hire someone because of a criminal background? How is the NFL any different? It's just a job, and everyone has to meet the standards set forth by their employer.
    Travis
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    axtell, for you to be so angry at Don Imus is ridiculous, considering your support of NAMBLA and their right to free speech..

    i dont understand how such a proponent of free speech like yourself, can even begin to compare Imus and someone who physically tortures living creatures.. it just shows off your highly hypocritical and retarded ways..
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  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Give me a break. This wasn't the first time Imus let his true racist colors fly...it wasn't said 'in jest', and I have to wonder if perhaps you don't share his racist views. Wanting Vick, a black man, banned for life from pursuing his life's work for breaking the law while a white man can freely spew hateful, racist remarks shows to me all I need to know about you being as big a racist as Imus is. >>



    racism has NOTHING to do with the stupid ass comparison you made. You're comparing free speech to criminal activity.

    why do you hate free speech?

    are you a communist?
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  • << <i>
    So the thousands of inmates in prisons across the country have been unjustly forced from their careers just because they broke the law? Isn't it within the right of the employer not to hire someone because of a criminal background? How is the NFL any different? It's just a job, and everyone has to meet the standards set forth by their employer. >>



    I wasn't referring to the jail time he's set to serve for breaking the law, I was referring to stown's moronic assertion that the NFL should ban him for life for breaking the law. Also, if being convicted of a crime is grounds for banning someone for life, where's the outrage for the countless players who have been convicted?



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    << <i>axtell, for you to be so angry at Don Imus is ridiculous, considering your support of NAMBLA and their right to free speech.. >>



    Imus can say whatever the hell he wants...I was simply pointing out how ridiculous it is to call for Vick to be banned for life. I don't think either guy (Vick or Imus) should be artifically prevented from gaining employment from anyone who wants to hire them (and suffer the negative PR that will surely follow).
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    damnit, bring back Rae Carruth! I hope he can continue his NFL career in 2018 when he gets out of prison.
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, smoking dope is just the same as abusing countless dogs all in the name of gambling.

    The more you spew, the bigger of an idiot you are (which I didn't think was possible).
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Axtell has some weed?


  • << <i>Yeah, smoking dope is just the same as abusing countless dogs all in the name of gambling.

    The more you spew, the bigger of an idiot you are (which I didn't think was possible). >>



    Who said anything about smoking dope? I was speaking to lawbreakers in general...isn't the breaking of laws and the image of the league what you are pretending to care most about?
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Axtell has some weed? >>



    it would actually make her think more clearly and with a more open mind about the world..
    ·p_A·


  • << <i>Axtell has some weed? >>



    Sorry my favorite weed, Aurora Borealis, is now extinct....my boy Vinny Chase supposedly has some, though.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Axtell has some weed? >>



    That gives pot smokers a bad name.

    But don't listen to me since, according to him, I'm a racist image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>But don't listen to me since, according to him, I'm a racist image >>



    also, free speech = felony criminal act.
    ·p_A·
  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>But don't listen to me since, according to him, I'm a racist image >>



    also, free speech = felony criminal act. >>



    I think if that were the case Ax would have a hard case of the Folsom Prison Blues.
    Travis
  • I was speaking in jest comparing Imus' wrongdoings and comparing them to Vick's, to project just how ridiculous stown's assertions that Vick should be banned for life.

    Sorry that wasn't more abundantly clear.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was speaking in jest comparing Imus' wrongdoings and comparing them to Vick's, to project just how ridiculous stown's assertions that Vick should be banned for life.

    Sorry that wasn't more abundantly clear. >>



    Translated:

    I got my arse handed to me and look to be a complete and utter fool. Rather than admitting how stupid my BS sounded, I'll play it off like I've been joking the entire time.

    Yeah, that's the ticket!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • I wasn't 'joking', I was simply pointing out how moronic your calls for Vick to be banned for life are by calling for Imus to be banned for life.

    But then, when you share racist views with Imus, you are going to miss that.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image It never ceases to amaze me! Stitzen aka Ax fighting on multiple fronts! image How many threads have you been fighting in off and on today? 3 ? 4 ? image


  • << <i>image It never ceases to amaze me! Stitzen aka Ax fighting on multiple fronts! image How many threads have you been fighting in off and on today? 3 ? 4 ? image >>



    Who's fighting? Simply debating that Vick has the right to a life in the NFL after serving his time in jail and his one year suspension. He doesn't deserve to be banned for life just like Imus doesn't deserve to be banned for life for his comments. If an NFL team wants to hire Vick when he gets out, then they should be allowed to make that decision, just like any broadcaster who wants to hire Imus. Both entities will have a lot of fallout on the hiring of both, but both men should be allowed to make their livings.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Playing in the NFL is a privledge not a right. Sorry but it is true
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Playing in the NFL is a privledge not a right. Sorry but it is true >>



    Some people just won't ever get it, regardless of how much you pound it in their head.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>Playing in the NFL is a privledge not a right. Sorry but it is true >>



    Yes, and conviction of a crime doesn't preclude you that priviledge. Ask the countless NBA, MLB, and NFL players who have been convicted of a crime yet are still allowed to follow their chosen careers.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    speaking of banned for life, i think axtell/stitzen should be banned from this forum for her history of racist ways and NAMBLA support (besides the fact she's just an idiot as well)..
    ·p_A·
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    ask steve howe and his line of coke, hes probably around somewhere working at mcdonalds ,he only got caught 7 or 8 times ,finally got the boot
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ask steve howe and his line of coke, hes probably around somewhere working at mcdonalds ,he only got caught 7 or 8 times ,finally got the boot >>



    yeah he's actually kinda dead..
    ·p_A·
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