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Fake 1963 topps rose rookie?

FlintboyFlintboy Posts: 150
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I was close to purchasing the Rose PSA 8 rookie on an Ebay BIN for just under $1300 and had to check the certification number. You guessed it, no number found. The funny thing is the seller touts that it is real and directs you to psa to check it out. The item number for the auction is 230161637637. Just a heads up for anyone who was thinking about purchasing it. I would link it to this thread but I am still no computer whiz yet. The hunt still continues for the Rose..................

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  • FlintboyFlintboy Posts: 150
    The BIN was $1225.00 with free shipping....figures
  • mdkuommdkuom Posts: 969 ✭✭✭
    link
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Fake flip. The font's all wrong.

    Pretty funny. At least attempt to put a correct cert. # on it.
  • mosaicmosaic Posts: 700 ✭
    Wow, looking at that auction# you posted, my alarm bell is going off from the plastic sleeve surrounding the card. PSA doesn't sleeve standard sized cards, and their sleeve for undersized issues doesn't "warp" that much in the holder... if at all.

    In fact--HEY!!--that sleeve and card are ON TOP of that holder! Jeez!

    Plus, 90076713 doesn't return a record in the PSA database.
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  • ManofmoeManofmoe Posts: 264 ✭✭
    Nice catch, I was looking at his 56 Mantle and thought it seemed a little bit fishy. This little disclaimer doesn't help either:


    << <i>Please note that I am not currently accepting PayPal as a form of payment. I was recently selling a gun collection and had set up to take PayPal payments for the auctions. Little did I know that this violated their TOS and it resulted in my account be blocked. Therefore, I will be unable to take it as a method of payment. Thank you for your understanding. >>



    It looks like the account has hardly been used since 2005. My guess is it was hacked. Hopefully nobody falls for this.

    56 Mantle

    Mike
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's selling a fake PSA 9 56 Mantle, too. What a POS!

    Fake PSA 9 1956 Mantle


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    More fake crap "strait' from a sealed case, LOL!

    Fake 1984 Football Box

    Edit: All these auctions are also 1-day auctions, definitely a hijacked account, or straight fraud by the seller. He should be locked up!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cravetoppscravetopps Posts: 1,134
    the mantle cert is 9 numbers. incredible.
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  • bigred1bigred1 Posts: 667
    The cert he has listed is for a Mantle in nine, the picture has a different number, could be wrong picture? lol. The cert on 55 Bowman Mantle crosses to a 89 Upper Deck Griffey. Wow
  • FlintboyFlintboy Posts: 150
    Does PSA have a dog in this fight? Do they go after someone who is fraudently marketing their grading process? In the intrest of their business and marketability you would think they would be going after people who run these flips. If this becomes easier to do in the "high-tech age," this could be a serious problem not only for PSA but for all collectors. I wonder how many scumbags have the high tec equipment to burn off a PSA label, pull up a cert and slap it on a holder..........
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    He scammed two buyers on a 33 Goudey Ruth for $5,000 and a $4,000 card after selling a few >99 cent type crap auctions. No feedback in two years and now he hits the board runnin!!?? By the time these get to lawsuits he will be long gone.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    The cases do not look frosted though. They are fake cards, but I wonder if the cases are cracked or what.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    << Please note that I am not currently accepting PayPal as a form of payment. I was recently selling a gun collection and had set up to take PayPal payments for the auctions. Little did I know that this violated their TOS and it resulted in my account be blocked. Therefore, I will be unable to take it as a method of payment. Thank you for your understanding. >>

    ha thats a good one, paypal could care less what you are paying for,as long as they get their $ out of it, nice touch with the 63 rose sitting on top the slab in a penny sleeve,-no wonder he dont take paypal lol-people like this should be shot out of a cannon as ammo
  • ebayaddictebayaddict Posts: 232 ✭✭
    Call PSA for verification. Sometimes items aren't in their database............
    "You must understand the difference in things that are similar, and the similarity of things that are different"

  • scooter729scooter729 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭
    I just reported his auctions to ebay; let's see if they do anything...
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    ha thats a good one, paypal could care less what you are paying for,as long as they get their $ out of it, nice touch with the 63 rose sitting on top the slab in a penny sleeve,-no wonder he dont take paypal lol-people like this should be shot out of a cannon as ammo

    Actually there are many items that can get your Paypal account locked for selling them. Adult items used to get you a 500 dollar fine on top of the account getting locked. Any of the below items are not allowed to be sold using Paypal.

    Academic Software

    Aggregators

    Alcoholic Beverages

    Animal and Wildlife Products

    Artifacts, Grave-Related, and Native American Crafts

    Authenticity Disclaimers

    Bootleg Recordings

    Charities and Non-Profit Organizations

    Counterfeit Items

    Dealers in Jewels, Precious Metals and Precious Stones

    Electronics Equipment

    Embargoed Goods, Prohibited Countries

    Encouraging Illegal Activities

    Event Tickets

    Faces, Names, and Signatures

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    Mature Audiences

    Medical Devices

    Mod Chips

    Money Service Businesses

    Multi-level Marketing, Pyramid and Matrix Programs

    OEM Software

    Offensive Material

    Online Dating

    Pre-Selling Products

    Prescription Drugs and Devices

    Satellite and Cable TV Descramblers

    Slot Machines

    Stocks, Bonds, Securities, and Related Certificates

    Stored Value Cards

    Surveillance Equipment

    Tobacco

    Travel

    Unauthorized Copies

    Although many of these items a reguraly sold on Ebay with no problems.
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    I just Asked the seller why the cert numbers do not match, why the card appears to be on top of a PSA holder and why the font is wrong on the flip.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    never heard of any of that, is why they have the "other" section on there lol,i see tons of that stuff on ebay all the time, except drugs and guns lol-"payable to the order of ---- for crack $5,000"

    p.s.- i asked him last night, no answer yet,dont expect to get one, maybe if we can get about 25 people to ask him that have been enlightened to his ways, hell go away!be funy to hear his explantations anyways, if he gives one,why would you put "you cna check the cert verification on the auctions" and then have them be wrong,he must think everyone is stupid or something!
    randy
  • blaze42blaze42 Posts: 166
    This is one example of why the new ebay format sucks...can't e-mail high bidder to warn him
  • bigred1bigred1 Posts: 667
    I emailed him yesterday and asked why certs dont match, no response.
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    I wouldn't bid or buy based on the feedback.

    Red

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  • rise2itrise2it Posts: 160

    Have to admit I'd never seen that paypal list before. Most of this is common sense, except for this one...

    Electronics Equipment


    Geez, exactly what would fall under that broad category???

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