SO WHICH COMMEM IS IT CONTEST!! / WE HAVE A WINNER!!

wondercoin · January 5, 2002 2:31PM

On a current thread, I mentioned that the finest classic silver Commem set of all time is -1- MS66 away from a perfect MS66 or better 144 pc. collection. The set was -3- coins away, but Registrycoin filled those two holes earlier this year.

CONTEST:

NAME THE LAST (3) PCGS-MS65 COINS IN REGISTRYCOIN'S #1 COMMEM SET (2 OF WHICH WERE JUST FILLED THIS YEAR AND 1 OF WHICH HAS YET TO BE FILLED) AND WIN FREE COINS VALUED AT $75 TOTAL COIN WORLD TRENDS. ALSO, WHICH COIN IS STILL OPEN?

CONSOLATION PRIZE: NAME THE ONE COIN REGISTRYCOIN STILL NEEDS IN MS66 TO COMPLETE HIS ENTIRE 144 pc. SET IN MS66 OR BETTER AND WIN A FREE COIN VALUED AT $25 COIN WORLD TRENDS.

Only -1- guess per person. First person to win the $75 prize ends the contest. If no one wins the $75 prize, $25 consolation prize to the person that guesses the one coin he still needs. Only 1 prize awarded here, either the $75 or the $25 (unless no one guesses either in which case I keep the prizes

). Contest ends noon tomorrow Eastern time at which time Registrycoin will give a brief presentation to the forum on the (3) toughest MS66 coins in the classic Commem set per his experience.

So, everyone who participates, please give me your list of three coins and then the coin from your list which you believe is still the MS65 coin in the set.

Wondercoin.

RegistryCoin · January 5, 2002 2:36PM

Shake it all off like a wet dog. All right, guys take a deep breath and enjoy the novelty of a purely "coin related" thread. We're going to have some fun here after all. Thanks for the contest.

dbldie55 · January 5, 2002 2:42PM

The three rarest I can see are the 1952D, 1953D and 1954D Washington Carver's. 1953D is still needed, as I would bet he had the pop 1 coin, as that is the kind of set it is.

Edited to add: I should have paid more attention when I was viewing it last year. It was an open set then.

kyleknap · January 5, 2002 2:45PM

3 MS65 Coins...I'll say....

1921 Alabama
1953-D Washington Carver
1954-D Washington Carver

just a wild gander.

ModMan · January 5, 2002 2:45PM

Last three coins filled in higher than MS65? Hawaiian and the Grant with star along with the Alabama. The one still in 65 (awaiting the 66)?
Purely a guess, obviously: New Rochelle.
MM

kyleknap · January 5, 2002 2:46PM

AND I DIDN"T USE A FRIGGIN POP REPORT EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edited to add:
AND NO DBLDIE, YOU DID NOT EDIT TO ADD THAT, I SAW YOUR ORIGINAL POST, YOU EDITED TO TAKE OUT THE PART ABOUT THE POP REPORT!

wondercoin · January 5, 2002 2:51PM

GUYS: I was editing my thread when a few guesses came in. Two things: First, please make your contest guesses as my post requested: The three guesses and then a single guess of the coin still needed for the set. That single guess will be needed to win either side of the contest. Anyone that has guessed, please edit to get your guesses in proper form. Wondercoin.

wondercoin · January 5, 2002 3:18PM

Great job dbldie55!! Steve asked me if you wanted to go double or nothing guessing which side of the bed he sleeps on and whether he uses 1 pillow or 2?

All kidding aside, Registrycoin may need a hour or two to prepare his presentation, as he didn't expect the contest to end in 5 minutes!!! dbldie55, please PM me with your shipping address for your prize. Wondercoin.

BigE · January 5, 2002 3:18PM

Missouri 2X4, 52-D W/C and a Lexington, and the one he needs is a 54-D W/C---------------BigE

BigE · January 5, 2002 3:20PM

I would edit my post but I promised I wouldn't

-----BigE

BigE · January 5, 2002 3:21PM

Congrats 55, thanks Wondercoin and RC

----------BigE

RegistryCoin · January 5, 2002 3:21PM

Larry Shepherd's collection, if I'm not mistaken had 75 ms67 and ms68 coins (55 ms67s and 20 ms68s), 54 ms66s and 15 ms65s. My set is close with 19 ms68s, 81 ms67s, 44 ms66s and the lone ms65 in the W-C 53d. Now, I guess since we started with the MS65, we might as well start off discussing the Washington-Carvers, and eventually work backwards. The '52d, '53d, and '54d are seemingly the toughest W-Cs in ms66 so what are you going to do if you want a 66 and there aren't any to be found? Ya gotta make one yourself. I wanted an average ms66 W-C set, unheard of, in any circle, because these three dates have produced no ms66 yet. I found a 52d, and a 54d that did get the nod from pcgs. The '52d is a pop1 ms66 and the 54d is a pop2 ms66. I don't know what to do about finding a 53d capable of finding itself in a pcgs ms66 holder, so to acheive a W-C ms66 set, the only thing left to do is locate a ms67 to raise the average. Now a W-C in ms67 is basically unheard of, but to locate one is just damn lucky, I guess. So with the addition of the '53s in ms67, the set now does average ms66. That pesky '53d pcgs ms66 will be found in an ms65 holder, or someday one of the two ms66s may present themselves. Congratulations to dbldie55 for his stunningly quick, and absolutely correct answer.....
Thank you for your participation.

supercoin · January 5, 2002 4:37PM

That's bizarre -- any ideas as to why the W-C's appear to be so much tougher than other commems in MS66+?

Just an unloved design that hasn't got much submission interest? Low-relief design that doesn't strike up well? Big open spaces on the reverse that make marks easy to see? Three strikes I'm out?

kyleknap · January 6, 2002 5:32AM

Registry coin, Larry's set had 14 65's, 55 66's, 60 67's, and 15 68's. His set had all of the D mint Washington Carver's in 65, and at that time, they all were the finest known, with the esception of the 52d. Highfill's set had all 65's for those dates as well. Good luck with finding your last 66.

Kyle

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 5:44AM

The Shepherd collection

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 5:45AM

Kyle. Perhaps those were the correct numbers reflecting the Shepherd collection of commems at some point in time. Check the description of the Shepherd collection here, in the pcgs registry, where some numbers are mentioned, ie. "...no fewer than 20 ms68s...". Your numbers seem close, however, and have accurate properties, ie, there were a total of (75) ms67 and ms68s. Has PCGS made a mistake or typo? I've provided a link to the description, above.

I am pretty confident I will find that last ms65 that should be in a 6 holder. It's just a matter of time. Thanks, Kyle for your good wishes.

buffalotrader · January 6, 2002 5:50AM

Shouldnt this thread be on the giveaway forum?

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 5:54AM

Now, you're finally a part of the team, Buff. Welcome.

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 6:18AM

A Large bonus will be given to the person who can provide that pcgs ms65 '53d W-C, that they/I think will get the nod to go 66. Let me know what you have in the way of nice pcgs ms65 '53d W-Cs.

dbldie55 · January 6, 2002 6:28AM

Steve, I know you have to have tried it already. So how many upgrade attempts have you made for this coin? I am sure another exists, it will just be a matter of having the graders agree with you when you find it.

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 6:38AM

I have tried my 65 once. It just doesn't have the "Look" pcgs is currently looking for to get the nod. I need one with the "look". You know what I mean.

ModMan · January 6, 2002 6:40AM

BuffaoTrader: Do you have BOTH the proof and mint state Buffalo Commemoratives? If so, you must be pretty proud your collection is complete.

PS: Your sense of humor on this forum is as acid is to do-date buffs.

buffalotrader · January 6, 2002 7:58AM

ModMan, I just got a PM saying that you used to be called cc2k. Is this true?

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 8:03AM

Oh, oh. You've done it now, Buff. I can't help you now... ...you're on your own. Good luck, I tried to help you.

From yesterday, as we were discussing the merits of "editing": This was your 10th post.
buffalotrader
Member

Saturday, January 05, 2002 10:56 AM (NEW!)

no offense, but wouldnt these posts be better off in the open forum?
Why do people edit posts?

Then I tried to help you:

Hi, Buff. Where'd you drop in from? I thought the buffalo airport was closed.
Anyway, our credo here is: "Registry set related, is registry set related", and we're pretty strict about that. Like today's discussion of a new and popular movie, where it was determined that children of prominent Registry Set Holders should not attend.
Are you lost? Can we help you? Please see the "Site Map"
Oh, and we edit stuff like: <<<<"but wouldn't these posts be better off in the open forum">>>> because they're embarrassing to their poster. No offense intended.
Apologies to the newbie. See how we are? This guy has amassed 10 posts to his name and he's already telling us "where to go," AND, he's sensitive? He'll fit in perfectly here!!

Another answer to your question, Buff, lies towards the top of this thread (you must have missed it on your way down here to police our activity - told you he'd fit in well here) concerning people quoting only portions of text for the sake of their arguement, usually italicized and/or surrounded by those little "greater than", "less than" thingies. This is considered in poor taste, highly rude and a very bad practice. I hope this helps.

Please don't leave. See how ironic things are? Your answers come even before you get peeved.
And, yes, even poetry and humor. We've got it all here at Registry Central and like I said, no offense intended.
We even like sensitive newbies who tell us to go to the open forum when we are discussing really important Registry Stuff.

buffalotrader · January 6, 2002 8:09AM

lol

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 8:11AM

...and have you answered MM's question from yesterday?
ModMan
Veteran

Saturday, January 05, 2002 1:50 PM (NEW!)

BuffaloTrader- You missed one sweet deal on a PCGS MS67 Buffalo Commemorative yesterday on the Buy/Sell board.
-You've got to try harder to live up to your name.

Other than insults- what do you collect?

-------------------------
Not a Set Registry builder
but a Builder of a Better Registry

C'mon you can tell us. Is it Buffs, or Bull?

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 8:23AM

You now have 29 posts. Let's see what you say when you have 30 posts. And what have we learned? Newbies get hazed when they start off on their goofie foot. Some make it, some don't.
Did you enter the commem contest? Wasn't it amazing the winner "got it" so fast?

PS. can you turn off PMs from just one guy?

kyleknap · January 6, 2002 9:09AM

Registry Coin,

The numbers I gave you concernign the Shepherd set were straight out of the ilver Dollar Encyclopedia, it also lists the grade of every coin in the set (also incl. the Highfill set), and gives pictures of some beautiful toned pieces in the set. Some of the information givin may be outdated, as the book was published in 1991 if I'm not mistaken.

Kyle

edited to add..

yesa, you can block PM's from certain people. Click on private messages on the top, and towards the bottom there is an "ignore" thing.

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 9:26AM

Thanks, Kyle. "Ignore". hmmm I'll have to remember that.
Well I certainly like your numbers better. I thought I still had to get one more 8 to tie. But much more importantly, I'd trade my set, with its MASSIVE grade point advantage, for his, any day of the week.
I currently only have three "Shepherd" coins in my collection.

supercoin · January 6, 2002 9:30AM

Hey, whattabout my question of relevant numismatic interest? Too boring? Should I mix in a little Jerry Springer to get a response?

Any ideas as to why the W-C's appear to be so much tougher than other commems in MS66?

Really I'm curious, as an Ike enthusiast condition-rarity is of course a matter of interest.

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 9:34AM

Oh, yea. You, Tad. You want to know something relevant.
The mint put absolutely NO efforts into die prep., strike, etc.
Don't ask me why I think that is.

supercoin · January 6, 2002 9:43AM

Don't ask you because it's a mystery and you don't know, or it's a vast conspiracy and you aren't allowed to say?

Did Denver know ahead of time that the W-C was going to be the last of the commems? Maybe it was "short-timer" syndrome or something.

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 9:46AM

Ok, you asked. The deep dark BLACK secret is:
The mint was tired of making commems.

How's that for PC?

ModMan · January 6, 2002 10:10AM

The Mint prep'ed and spent about as much effort on the WC commem as they did on 1971-P Ikes. None.

supercoin · January 6, 2002 10:11AM

Seriously?? I guess that theory would jibe nicely with the fact that the more liberal San Francisco mint workers didn't seem to have the same difficulties.

But strangely the BTW can be found nice relatively easily. Or did they just figure one appearance on a coin design was good enough...

RegistryCoin · January 6, 2002 10:29AM

Same theory applies to the BTWs. It's a deep dark BLACK secret. BTWs were made after a tremendous onslaught of commems. They were just tired of minting commems. Yea, that's it.
PS. In the case of the BTWs, there are some nice ones, but the numbers dwindle towards the latter years of mintage. They were just getting tired minting one brilliant WHITE commem after another, I guess.

SO WHICH COMMEM IS IT CONTEST!! / WE HAVE A WINNER!!

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