Have TWO SetRegistries. One for the Serious Collector, and the other one?

ModMan

This is getting out of hand. PCGS needs to set up two separate and distinct Registries.
The first would be for Classic Coinage and serious Collections that would feature the finest Sets on the planet.
Steve's set of early Commemoratives would as an example, easily qualify.

Other sets for inclusion would include MintState Morgans (in grades of MS63 for keys, and above), the Finest Known Peace dollars (examples from the Jack Lee collection would qualify).

Barber coinage in MintState; Early Bust coinage along with the Flowing hair designs (in smooth VF25 and greater).

There would be NO Ikes; Kennedies; clad Washingtons (sorry, State quarter dudes).

There would possibly be MintState MS66 or greater Washington silver pieces and Buffalo Nickels in GEM or higher.

These sets would be featured on the front pages of the Registry and this site could only be accessed by either the Collectors themselves or by the paid membership.

The second Registry ('registry' that is) would consist of worn Mercury dimes; sets of MS66 Rosey dimes; a scattering of American Silver Eagles and the other mass produced mint product that is being pumped out of the Mint these days.
Anyone would be welcome to brouse around and submit their coins in this registry. There would be no need for insert safeguards because, really. Who cares?
The bickering forum would continue as anyone could log on with or without a password or CU membership. I'm sure David Hall would pop in on occassion to give his praise and words of encouragement.

kyleknap

GREAT IDEA!!!


GET THESE CLAD COLLECTORS THERE OWN HOME AND LOCK EM IN THERE!!!

BigE

ModMan, where would you fit in?-------------BigE

ModMan

Thanks BigE! I'd be the WatchKeeper over the gates of the elite Registry. I'm there to keep the rif-raf out.

a Registry Bouncer.

keithdagen

ModMan,

Have you thought that maybe the clad collectors are also serious about their collections? The only ones who don't seem to be serious are a few posters who bounce around from thread to thread, and don't really contribute anything to the cause. For a majority, the "clad" collectors tend to be the most easy-going of the bunch. Just look at the way guys like CosmisDebris and others work to help new guys who haven't figured out how to PM, link stuff, and the like.

Keith

Graham

I like this idea but What exactly would change HERE on the Registry board if we keep it all on the same board? would there be two seperate boards needed for Moderns and Classics?

(edited for spelling)

BigE

OK, that's fine. I think they should have a separate registry also, for those who won't lift their skirts up and show others the composition of their set, and who sit back and say they can never be caught and yet are afraid to show their hand. Mr. Conehead Sir, could you please refer this suggestion to the higher ups, this peon would be thankful----------BigE

kyleknap

Instead of just separating the million dollar sets from you average collection, how about a modern registry and a classic registry. We all know that those are two completely different types of collectors. So on one side, you have pre-36 stuff, and on the other, you have state quarters, silver eagles, and all of that artificiall bull$hit.

Kyle

dbldie55

You know ModMan has to be loving this, there is no point to this. Every set is separate from every other set. Right now there are numerous registries. What do you want, separate links on the front page to each one? Be real, this thread is accomplishing exactly what it was intended to.

kyleknap

I don't give a cr@p about the registry itself, those are already separate.

How about separate registry forums

Fairlaneman

Is the permeation of this Forumn with the smell of regurgitation going to continue with these Threads ? The old stomach is getting quite empty.

ModMan

dblddie55: You aren't still po'ed about my comment regarding your handle, are you?

BigE: You did ask nicely, so I'll see what I can do for you.

Keith: No one is suggesting the clad collectors (you may Capitalize that title on your own forum) would fit in nicely on the back pages.
Also, isn't it most of them that have been bickering about PCGS not listening to them?

Graham, the intellegent one (before and after your edit). I agree with you agreeing with me. I like your idea of two separate boards. (The Classic Board would be open to Members only).
Of course that conflicts with Keith's suggestion. Possibly the two of you could initiate a symposium with an emphesis on what coin(s) would qualify for inclusion.

Dog97

Great idea ModMan, and the non-registry set owner dealers that the polls showed to favor for the council could run the worn Mercury dimes; sets of MS66 Rosey dimes; a scattering of American Silver Eagles section. I also move to make a committee to investigate the possiblity of adding dateless buffs, AG pocket pieces and Lordmarcovens favorite, The Holey Coin

All in favor raise their right hand and say "aye"

Brudd

Hi All,
No sooner did I mention to my wife about the emerging "Bureaucracy"
on these boards and the potential for the separation of classes by charging the "elite" for memberships ----I log-on look what I find stated by an "elected" official.



"These sets would be featured on the front pages of the Registry
and this site could only be accessed by either the Collectors themselves or by the paid membership."


Hey guys, I'm not trying to fan the flames here, People just do what they learn and by wathching governments,banks,utilities or any large
chain of whatever; put people in charge, charge memberships and/or fees to accomplish the separation of classes and make the average or smaller guy less than what he is.
If this forum leads in that direction (and the foundation has been laid)I will leave the area that was supposed to be be for "free and open exchange", I enjoy Lurking around here, I also enjoy viewing the contents of others registries knowing that my Modern Proof Set is just the beginning and that the set of bust coinage that I will build will also be enjoyed by others.
This is just my opinion, Take it to heart or laugh at it, Either way enjoy it.

Ed

Dog97

I also move to make a committee to investigate the possiblity of impeaching Modman.

All in favor raise their right hand and say "aye"

egsantos

Hey ModMan,
What you proposing is the creation of the “Superior Race of Collectors?”
The history shows that every time that that was tried ended in human conflict.
For the last events here in this forum, I think that the hobby is conflict and not coins.
Collection is hobby. When you decide register it is a manifestation of you want expose your collection for the other collectors and to compete, yes to compete is healthy since it is not used tricks. If the collection is more valuable or less valuable, more difficult or less difficult who knows and will see the registers for sure will valuate.
Divide by class is the same of create feuds and it is not good to incentive new collectors.
A quarters collector is less collector than one of Graded Morgan?
Actually the quarter’s and others coins collection that I have does for absolute amusement. Seriously and as investment it is the collection that I have of Monet’s. And that I don't want to register......

Edson

khayse

Yes Modman, all registry sets are equal, some are just more equal
than others.

> You know ModMan has to be loving this, there is no point to this.
> Every set is separate from every other set. Right now there are numerous registries.
> What do you want, separate links on the front
> page to each one? Be real, this thread is accomplishing exactly what it was intended to.

Right on Dbldie55.

This idea couldn't be more ludicrous. Do you know what I think
is the major draw for the registry? It's what I consider the
"moderate" collector. It's not people collecting "worn Mercury dimes".
They're collecting nice MS mercury dimes in as high a condition
as they can afford. Their sets don't compare to Jack Lee's but
they like to have their set listed on the same page as Jack's
and be able to see how close they can come. They also like to
compare their collections to others similar to themselves.

Who are you to say Typetone's MS Ike set is any less of a great
collection than some of the best Peace dollar sets? The difference
is not scarcity. The difference may be a monetary one but that's
just a function of number of collectors. Fifty years from now
their places could be reversed.

What are you going to do with my Walker set? It spans that
magical 1932 year. On the other hand it doesn't have any coins
in it lower than MS64. Am I a serious collector or am I riff raff?
Ah, I have an Ike collection. Definitely riff raff. But what happens
when my Walker set crosses the $25K mark? How about the $50K mark.
Doesn't sound like riff raff to me. Will I get a magical pass into
the golden kingdom when I reach a certain dollar figure?

Don't let the few small problems with the registry convince you
that anything other than small changes need to be made.

If this was all sarcasm and a joke, I missed the smiley.

-Keith H

braddick

madmike

...

And then we could mail in our tax returns and a blood sample... does eveyone see where this is going?

When I got interested in coins I was afraid I'd run into a lot of pompous, uppity, collectors. I'm glad to say that has never happened. I've met a lot of freindly, helpful and encouraging people. The idea of dividing the "serious" collectors from the "not-so serious" collectors (who's going to define those terms?) seems to smack of elitism.

Same thing with the "my Morgan Dollar collection is more significant than your Kennedy Half collection" argument. The Moderns are a great place for those of us who are fairly new to this (I've only been collecting for three years) to learn the ropes of collecting. Coins from the 1800's can seem pretty intimidating to the average newbie.

BTW... I think this post is just ModMan's way of heating things up again after a couple days of relative calmness

madmike

fantasiize

ModMan,

I am disappointed in you ... separating the clad collections out and putting the elite collections in. You are starting to sound like Kyleknap ... beauty is in the eye of the beholder and with age, beauty does change.

egsantos

MadMike,

Your words sound like music to me.

Edson