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Help with some older World coins ,12 in all

This is actually for a friend
I need info and value if possible:
Thanks in advance.
I may have mixed up the obverses and reverse on a couple
anyone that wants the BIG scan of them all PM me

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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    I'm sorry I can't help, they are too old for my limited knowledge......image

    Some of them are really cool though.imageimage
    Becky
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,738 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Appear to be all British...
  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭
    The two copper stiver pieces are Guyana (old British Guianna) both are considered tokens.
    Gene

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  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin 1: English Hammered penny, looks like a "long cross" penny. I can't read the obverse legend clearly through the 2x2, but I think it says EDWARANGDNSHY. The reverse (the cross side) shows the mint, "CIVITAS LONDON".

    Coin 2: Scottish Hammered penny: a King Alexander (probably Alexander III, 1241-1286).

    Coin 3: Another English Hammered "long cross" penny. Same obverse legend, but this one's struck in CIVITAS CANTOR (Canterbury).

    Picking the denominations on these later coins is tricky - all denominations had much the same design. I'm working on the assumption that the pictures are all pretty much to the same scale.

    Coin 4 (pictures 7 and 12): British sixpence of William III, 1696. CV £20 in Fine (using British grading scale).

    Coin 5: (pictures 8 and 11): British shilling of George II, 1739. CV £30 in Fine.

    Coin 6: (pictures 9 and 10): English shilling of Charles I, portcullis mintmark (issued 1633-1634). Type 3.1 I think, £35 in Fine. This one's definitely a shilling, the denomination XII (12 pence) gives it away.

    Coin 7: (pictures 13 and 18): British shilling of George I, 1723, South Sea Company provenance marks, £75 in VF.

    Coin 8: (pictures 14 and 15): British shilling of William and Mary, 1693. CV £100 in Fine.

    Coin 9: (pictures 16 and 17): British shilling of James II, 1686. Note the V over S in the king's name, IACOBVS. This is a recorded variant of the shilling, but doesn't add any value; CV £125 in Fine.

    Coin 10: Essequibo and Demeraray (later British Guiana, now Guyana) 1 stiver 1813. This one is a real coin, listed in Krause (KM# 10) with a CV of $15 in VF.

    Coin 11: This one's a token, though the "stiver" denomination distinguishes it from British or Canadian tokens of the same period. The "stiver" was based on the Dutch unit of currency; coins in English denominated in stivers were used in places the British annexed from the Dutch during the Napoleonic Wars. Both Ceylon and British Guiana are good contenders, though I'd assume Guiana from the similarity in design to other Anglo-American tokens.

    Coin 12: British shilling of Anne, 1711. "plain angles" variety, CV £20 or so in Fine.
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  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful job Sapyx!image

    For those who don't know it, isn't there an interesting story behind "short cross" and "long cross"?
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For those who don't know it, isn't there an interesting story behind "short cross" and "long cross"? >>


    Here's what the Wikipedia article on the History of the English Penny has to say about it...

    ...the short-cross penny continued in use until 1247. By then, however, through no fault of the moneyers' there was a problem in that many of the coins in circulation were underweight. This was caused by the illegal practice of clipping silver off the edge of the coin, which was made easier by the cross on the reverse not extending to the rim thus giving people no clear indication of exactly how big the coin was supposed to be. In 1247 therefore, a new long-cross penny replaced the short-cross coin, which made it more obvious when the coin had been clipped. Apart from the change in the size of the cross, the rest of the design did not substantially change, and the long cross made it easy to cut the coin into halves or quarters for change...

    Of course, it didn't really stop the clippers. They merely switched focus. Now they collected their ill-gotten gains by cutting the coins into halves and quarters and clipping the pieces of cross away from the inside.
    Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
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  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    Great Job Sapyx,
    2) Is Alexander III, also if you count the total points on the stars 24 points - Berwick mint, after the recoinage of ca. 1280.
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