FRANK THOMAS 1990 TOPPS NNOF- BACK FROM BGS- SCANS ADDED

Allen

Edit Update. I get the cards back from BGS today. I think I am going to keep it in the slab it is in. I think a few resubs could get the 9, but I do not want to loose the 10 sub on the edges. I think I will list it Buy It Now and take Best Offers. I am not sure what to start it at, but I am thinking pretty high as I would imagine offers are going to pour in. My scanner does not do that well with BGS cards, so I tried with the top open and closed. I will take some pics with my camera later as that seems to be the best way on BGS cards.

Any input on what I should set the Buy It Now at is appreciated.

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BGS Card Number 5187775
Set Name: 1990 Topps
Player Name: FrankThomas NNOF
Date Graded: Thursday, July 26, 2007
Centering Corners Edges Surfaces
8 9 10 9
Final Grade: 8.5

Should I crack and send to PSA ? Any chance it corsses to a PSA 9? BGS 8.5 sold for $900, PSA 9 sold for $1826. The BGS 8.5 that sold for $900 had subs (Centering 8.5, Corners 8, Edges 9, Surface 8.5) I would think my subs especially with the 10 edges might get a decent chunk more.

Here are the other 2 cards from the sub too.
5187778 1996-97 Bowman's Best Refractors Steve Nash 8.5
5187777 1996-97 Bowman's Best Atomic Refractors Steve Nash 9.0

envoy98

Heckuva nice looking 8.5. If the grade don't fit....

ajw

Hey, that card is totally missing his name!

jmbkb4

allen,

I would say the grade is -- surprisingly -- fair from BGS. That said, I do think it stands a 50% chance at PSA 9. Given the fact that the price differences between BGS 8.5 and PSA 8 are not that disconcordant, it is worth a submission to PSA.

nam812

What are you into the card for, and what would a PSA 8 bring (worst case scenario)?

Although if it got a PSA 8 you could just send it back to BGS hoping for the 8.5 again (or maybe a 9).

CDsNuts

Technically speaking, aren't corners part of the edge?

I think that card would get a 9 about one out of every three times, so you might as well keep sending in to PSA until you get the grade.

Allen

With grading fees I am about $335 into the card. Kit Young sold a PSA 8 for $770.

CDsNuts

If the difference between an 8/8.5 and a 9 is about a grand, I'd crackout and resubmit to PSA about 10 times until I get the grade.

EagleEyeKid

I'd crack it out in a heartbeat and off to PSA.
I don't see how it rec'd an 8 for centering. I think
that sub is a bit extreme.

nam812

on the $13/5 day special it will cost you about $25 with shipping, so 5 of those is $125 more cost (still ok), but if I remember right, you dont have a membership.

Allen

I am thinking maybe resub to BGS a bunch. If I can get the same grades but bump the centering to an 8.5 to make it a 9 overall with a 10 subgrade it would do very well.

originalisbest

Sharp card, allen.

ldferg

resub to bgs with minimum grade spec and see what happens.

estang

The card has a noticable tilt to it -- I agree with the grade.

Look closely at the frame of the photo shot of Thomas when compared to the Topps border. Tilt.

BunchOBull

May favorite card graded on my birthday, I'm sorry I didn't bring the good luck birthday 9. Just let us know when you decide to put her on the auction block.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

My opinion-Its a 8.5

Centering seems about a 8. Id worry about the edges getting dropped from a 10. Lower right front slight wear?

rube26105

very nice, at least you found out it wasnt fake,very sweet card!!!!!congrats!
the rube

Leiascards

I agree there is a slight tilt and that lower right edge does look funny but would that be the edge or corner?

Allen

updated

baseballfanatic

A lot of people will pay close to PSA 9 money for a BGS 8.5.

So ask for PSA 9 money and let THEM do the work.

Much cheaper that way......

WinPitcher

Allen

nice job, the tilt is minimal. why did you send it to bgs? wouldn't it have been better in a psa slab?

steve

Allen

BGS seems to get more money on this card. I am goning to market it as a great candidate to regrade, which it is. I saw someone on a message board call this card the 1952 Topps Mantle of modern cards. Not saying it would ever be worth that much or even a fraction, but I like this comparison and I think it would make a nice sales pitch too. The only other modern card I could think to compare to the 52 Mantle would maybe be the Alex Gordon.

BunchOBull

I see the Thomas up on eBay. Good luck with it.

rube26105

glad it came back good for ya allen!!!!
randy

dizzle

i see in the description it says "regrade this one and go for a 9 or maybe a psa 10" ....think so huh?

Allen

When I posted the card scan in the first post, more than one member said the card looked like it had a shot at a 10. I think that the members here have a pretty good eye so it is not an unfounded statement.

Morgoth

With these graders nowadays it has just a good a shot at a 10 as it does a 7.

jmbkb4

allen, did this ever sell on eBay? I know you had an astronomical BIN price but were accepting best offers.

good luck,

josh

Allen

It is still on eBay. I drop the Buy It Now a couple times a day. I usually start high because you can always come down. It seemed this might be the best route on this card as the last 2 listed (PSA 8 and BGS 7.5) were ended early and sold to offers via email. I know the 7.5 sold for $750 but I don't know what the PSA 8 was ended for. The auction has a large number of watchers and has drawn a lot of hits. If I do not get a good offer, I will likely resubmit to BGS or go with PSA.

rube26105

got a link for it anybody?

Allen

LINK

rube you ought to just come off some of that money and buy it from me, I will even bring it to ya personally. I take guns in trade also haha.