120 Card Football Sub Just Popped (June Special)

envoy98

Haven't had a chance t look it over much, but some of these 6's and 7's are baffling...

PSA Order Status for Submission # 4470352

LINE # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 1961 FLEER 119 TOM TRACY N/A 7
2 1961 FLEER 23 JOHN DAVID CROW N/A 7 ** SOLD **
3 1961 FLEER 199 COTTON DAVIDSON N/A 7 ** SOLD **
4 1961 FLEER 134 WRAY CARLTON N/A 7 ** SOLD **
5 1961 FLEER 161 ERNIE WRIGHT N/A 7 ** SOLD **
6 1961 FLEER 135 RICHIE LUCAS N/A 7 ** SOLD **
7 1961 FLEER 157 PAUL LOWE N/A 7
8 1961 FLEER 156 CHARLIE FLOWERS N/A 8
9 1961 FLEER 163 FRED COLE N/A 7
10 1961 FLEER 189 JACK LARSCHEID N/A 9 ** SOLD **
11 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 184 JOEL ZUMAYA N/A 9
12 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 202 CARLOS QUENTIN N/A 9
13 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 168 CONOR JACKSON N/A 7
14 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 301 YADIER MOLINA N/A 10
15 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 210 FAUSTO CARMONA N/A 10
16 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 192 SCOTT OLSEN N/A 10
17 2004 BOWMAN CHROME 178 ZACH MINER N/A 10
18 2006 BOWMAN CHROME BC134 CARLOS GOMEZ PROSPECTS 9
19 2006 BOWMAN CHROME BC122 ELVIS ANDRUS PROSPECTS 9
20 2006 BOWMAN CHROME BC125 JOSE TABATA PROSPECTS 9
21 2006 BOWMAN CHROME BC187 CHING-LUNG LO PROSPECTS 10
22 2006 BOWMAN CHROME BC129 HUNTER PENCE PROSPECTS 10
22 2006 BOWMAN CHROME BC129 HUNTER PENCE PROSPECTS 9
23 1971 TOPPS 211 JAKE SCOTT N/A 7 ** SOLD **
24 1976 TOPPS 223 BILLY JOHNSON N/A 7
25 1977 TOPPS 188 LEON GRAY N/A 8 *Not Available
26 1978 TOPPS 374 EDDIE EDWARDS N/A 9OC *Not Available
27 1979 TOPPS 217 JOHN JEFFERSON N/A 8
28 1979 TOPPS 345 TED HENDRICKS N/A 9
29 1979 TOPPS 480 WALTER PAYTON N/A 9OC
30 1979 TOPPS 360 CLIFF HARRIS N/A 7
31 1980 TOPPS 131 JIMMIE GILES N/A 7
32 1980 TOPPS 60 DENNIS HARRAH ALL-PRO 8
33 1982 TOPPS 410 GEORGE ROGERS N/A 8 *Not Available
34 1982 TOPPS 226 JAMES BROOKS N/A 8 *Not Available
35 1983 TOPPS 384 KENNY EASLEY N/A 8
35 1983 TOPPS 384 KENNY EASLEY N/A 8
36 1983 TOPPS 239 MAX MONTOYA N/A 9 *Not Available
36 1983 TOPPS 239 MAX MONTOYA N/A 8
37 1986 TOPPS 300 JOEY BROWNER N/A 8
38 1986 TOPPS 13 WILLIE GAULT N/A 9 ** SOLD **
39 1986 TOPPS 339 BOBBY HEBERT N/A 9 ** SOLD **
40 1986 TOPPS 154 SEAN LANDETA N/A 8
40 1986 TOPPS 154 SEAN LANDETA N/A 7
40 1986 TOPPS 154 SEAN LANDETA N/A 7
41 1986 TOPPS 25 WILBER MARSHALL N/A 7
42 1986 TOPPS 298 STEVE JORDAN N/A 7
43 1986 TOPPS 119 KARL MECKLENBURG N/A 7
44 1987 TOPPS 207 GARY ZIMMERMAN N/A 9 ** SOLD **
45 1988 TOPPS 157 CHRIS DOLEMAN N/A 10
46 1988 TOPPS 300 KEVIN GREENE N/A 10
47 1988 TOPPS 327 BO JACKSON N/A 9
47 1988 TOPPS 327 BO JACKSON N/A 10
47 1988 TOPPS 327 BO JACKSON N/A 9
47 1988 TOPPS 327 BO JACKSON N/A 9
48 1988 TOPPS 230 CORNELIUS BENNETT N/A 9
49 1988 TOPPS 4 JERRY RICE 1000 YARD CLUB 8
50 1989 PRO SET 527 TERRY McDANIEL N/A 6
51 1989 PRO SET 335 JAY NOVACEK N/A 9 *Not Available
52 1989 PRO SET 93 NATE NEWTON N/A 9
52 1989 PRO SET 93 NATE NEWTON N/A 8
53 1989 PRO SET 548 CARNELL LAKE N/A 7
53 1989 PRO SET 548 CARNELL LAKE N/A 9 *Not Available
54 1989 PRO SET 235 RANDALL McDANIEL N/A 8
54 1989 PRO SET 235 RANDALL McDANIEL N/A 9
54 1989 PRO SET 235 RANDALL McDANIEL N/A 10 ***SOLD***
55 1989 TOPPS TRADED 115T GREG LLOYD N/A 9 ** SOLD **
56 1989 SCORE 178 ANTHONY MILLER N/A 8
57 1989 SCORE 270 TROY AIKMAN N/A 8
58 1989 SCORE 257 BARRY SANDERS N/A 8
59 1989 SCORE 246 DEION SANDERS N/A 8
60 1989 SCORE 258 DERRICK THOMAS N/A 9
61 1989 SCORE 263 STEVE ATWA*TER N/A 7
62 1989 SCORE 18 MICHAEL IRVIN N/A 8
63 1989 SCORE 72 CRIS CARTER N/A 8
64 1989 SCORE 86 TIM BROWN N/A 7
65 1989 SCORE 408S DERMONTTI DAWSON SUPPLEMENTAL 6
66 1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 9 ** SOLD **
66 1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 8
66 1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 8
67 1990 ACTION PACKED 10 LEROY BUTLER ROOKIE UPDATE 9
67 1990 ACTION PACKED 10 LEROY BUTLER ROOKIE UPDATE 9
67 1990 ACTION PACKED 10 LEROY BUTLER ROOKIE UPDATE 8
68 1991 PACIFIC 575 LARRY BROWN N/A 9 *Not Available
69 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 9
69 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 9
69 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 9
69 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 10
69 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 9
70 1991 ULTRA UPDATE U-27 HERMAN MOORE N/A 8
71 1992 STADIUM CLUB 654 DARREN WOODSON N/A 8 *Not Available
72 1992 PRO SET 461 CARL PICKENS N/A 8
73 1992 AW SPORTS 15 DESMOND HOWARD N/A 9
74 1993 SP 23 LINCOLN KENNEDY N/A 8
75 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM N/A 7
75 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM N/A 8
75 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM N/A 8
76 1993 SP 8 ROBERT SMITH FOIL 7
77 1993 BOWMAN 421 WILLIE ROAF FOIL 7
77 1993 BOWMAN 421 WILLIE ROAF FOIL 8
77 1993 BOWMAN 421 WILLIE ROAF FOIL 7
78 1994 PLAYOFF 300 LARRY ALLEN N/A 7
79 1995 FINEST 212 RUBEN BROWN N/A 10
80 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP N/A 9
81 1995 COLL. CHOICE U210 DARREN BENNETT UPDATE 8
81 1995 COLL. CHOICE U210 DARREN BENNETT UPDATE 8
81 1995 COLL. CHOICE U210 DARREN BENNETT UPDATE 9
81 1995 COLL. CHOICE U210 DARREN BENNETT UPDATE 10 (Some of you will appreciate this!) *Not Available
81 1995 COLL. CHOICE U210 DARREN BENNETT UPDATE 8
82 1996 FINEST 344 BRIAN DAWKINS N/A 9
82 1996 FINEST 344 BRIAN DAWKINS N/A 9
83 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 162 TEDY BRUSCHI N/A 8
84 1997 FINEST 46 RODNEY HARRISON N/A 9
84 1997 FINEST 46 RODNEY HARRISON N/A 10
84 1997 FINEST 46 RODNEY HARRISON N/A 10
85 1998 UD CHOICE 94 OLINDO MARE N/A 9 *Not Available
86 1998 LEAF R & S 202 HINES WARD N/A 9
87 1998 SP AUTHENTIC 23 CHARLES WOODSON N/A 8
88 1999 SP AUTHENTIC 111 CHAMP BAILEY N/A 8
89 2003 PLAYOFF PRESTIGE 139 DEXTER JACKSON N/A 8
Date Received: 07/14/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 07/25/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

jradke4

well your poppage defy's my and maybe others theory about large subs with a range of years and cards. I submitted 226 mixed football cards, mainly modern and over half favre's 1991-1994. Some are inserts but most arent really odd ball inserts. here are my resutls.

Date Received: 07/05/2007
Date of Grades Posted: No Date Specified
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

You would think that they would want to clear some of these out before they go to Cleveland soon.

shagrotn77

PM sent.

gregm13

pm sent.

Greg M.

envoy98

pm's replied. I'm going to update the list with what's not available. I'm keeping 13 cards from this sub for my various sets.

envoy98

<< <i>well your poppage defy's my and maybe others theory about large subs with a range of years and cards. I submitted 226 mixed football cards, mainly modern and over half favre's 1991-1994. Some are inserts but most arent really odd ball inserts. here are my resutls.

Date Received: 07/05/2007
Date of Grades Posted: No Date Specified
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

You would think that they would want to clear some of these out before they go to Cleveland soon. >>



Funny thing is, my last two subs that included some baseball, popped faster than my all football submissions. The 3 submissions I have left at PSA are a 1961-1979 all fb submission (23 cards). a 1980-present football submission (24 cards) and an 11 card graded review. 1961-1986. All were checked in 6/22, 6/25 and 6/30. My other subs from 6/30, 7/13 and 7/14 have all popped now.

Davemri

What were your other 31 cards? Anything good??

gosteelers

PM sent!

kimo75

If the results are from the June $5 special, then that is EXACTLY what sucks about PSA. I have a submission in since 7/2, and some still have stuff there from April! Just an absolute crappy way to conduct business. Could very well be my last submission. Sad thing is....they don't care one iota.

envoy98

Dave, All 120 cards are listed. There are multiples of many of them so it's not a 1:1 with line number.

kimo: I agree. I have submissions from earlier in June (not the middle of July) that were entered and are smaller and more tightly coupled than this hodge-podge that aren't graded yet. It is what it is. I'm ecstatic these popped so soon, don't get me wrong, but I've been on the other side of it too. I waited 90+ days from doorstep to doorstep on a 189 card order back in March. I sent in 3/10 and got it back 6/17. I've also had 100 card, 45 day orders take 3 days. I check everyday, but I really don't expect to see the cards for close to 45 days. In fact, I had this one pegged for the middle of September. I'm glad it popped sooner as it lets me liquidate some stuff and now I don't have $650+ tied up in one submission. That's what really is the killer for me. Not the waiting, it's the money being tied up for that long.

gregm13

Josh,

I just can't believe all the 6's and 7's...geez. You hit some nice cards but you also got a lot of cr*p that will be tough to unload.

Regards,

Greg M.

envoy98

Not a single one of those 7's should be a 7 (except the older stuff, and maybe something I missed on a couple of those 86 Topps). The 6 on the Terry McDaniel Pro Set is a joke. Funny thing is, on the Bennetts, one of them was a 6 and another was a 7 from my las submission. I didn't see any reason they should be a 6 and a 7 and resubbed them. I'm not positive which ones they were in the stack, but now it's 3 8's, a 9 and a 10...so either way, PSA was wrong the first time around. I'll be cracking and resubmitting a few of these I'm sure. Pretty lame since a lot of them are $10 cards in PSA 8 form and I'm going to spend $10 to get them into that holder, but at least that way I break even...if I crack them out to sell them raw, or sell them in the 7 holders I probably get a quarter or 50 cents for them and then I'm out $4.50/card. Sometimes I don't spend a lot of time looking at the cards, especially when it comes to modern stuff like this, but I don't send in PSA 6 quality modern stuff... By the way, I only got 2 6's. No idea what I missed on that Dermontti Dawson...that's just lame. The last one I sent in came back a 6, turns out that one had a pressed edge that I missed. Not sure what happened on this one.

Oh well, win some you lose some. Overall I did quite well on this sub. The stuff I needed came back in grades I can use and the other stuff I can sell off to pay the grading fees and such.

I think I'm going to open an ebay store and just toss a bunch of this stuff in there and see how it does. The bowman chromes are great, I just pulled those out of an 800 ct box I had under my desk. I had no idea what was in it. I also managed a PSA 10 Zumaya refractor rc on my last sub from the same box. That Hunter Pence 10 should get $75 or so. The 61 fleers cost me $1 each raw...the PSA 9 will pay for the grading fees on them and one 7 will pay for the cards, the rest is gravy. I expected more 8's out of them however, I did not expect a 9 though so that was a bonus.

shouldabeena10

<< <i>The 61 fleers cost me $1 each raw...the PSA 9 will pay for the grading fees on them and one 7 will pay for the cards, the rest is gravy. I expected more 8's out of them however, I did not expect a 9 though so that was a bonus. >>



OK Josh,

So if I buy this pile, and help you get rid of some of those 7's and the overgraded 9 ... how much gravy will it cost me?

2 1961 FLEER 23 JOHN DAVID CROW N/A 7
3 1961 FLEER 199 COTTON DAVIDSON N/A 7
4 1961 FLEER 134 WRAY CARLTON N/A 7
5 1961 FLEER 161 ERNIE WRIGHT N/A 7
6 1961 FLEER 135 RICHIE LUCAS N/A 7
10 1961 FLEER 189 JACK LARSCHEID N/A 9

envoy98

LOL. Guess I should have over-sold those a little bit instead huh?

I figure auction value (based on vcp values) is about $85 on those. Got anything to trade? Or I could sell them too and cut you a few bucks off.

shouldabeena10

How about $40 cash, a under graded vintage PSA 7, an over graded PSA 9 I got from a $2.00 card I bought raw, and a surprise raw bonus card?

Mike

Davemri

<< <i>Dave, All 120 cards are listed. There are multiples of many of them so it's not a 1:1 with line number >>



Oops..My bad..

Wabittwax

<< <i>Not a single one of those 7's should be a 7 >>



My last sub was about 700 cards of mostly modern. I wound up with about 15 cards that were 6's and 7's. I was a little pissed because I've been submitting for 10 years and I know what I'm looking at. I still don't see a flaw with those cards. I'm bringing them to the National and see if I can't get somebody to answer for them. Percentage wise out of the whole order, it's no big deal but it still pisses me off to throw money away.

envoy98

<< <i>How about $40 cash, a under graded vintage PSA 7, an over graded PSA 9 I got from a $2.00 card I bought raw, and a surprise raw bonus card?

Mike >>



If it's all football, you got yourself a deal.

envoy98

Wabbitt-I feel the same way. The vintage stuff was 7/8 quality but the 86 TOpps stuff, even if it had been Jerry Rice, shouldn't have gotten a 7. So Unless I just missed something I don't know what happened. Like I said, I expected 8's on all of them with a smattering of 9's.