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Since when does an "authentic Ted Williams Autograph sell for only $89.00 ??

gilgil Posts: 988
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I was just checking the seller that sold me the "authentic Muhammad Ali autograph" I just sent it back today.

There is also a Willy Mays that sold for $36.00 Something just doesnt smell right.

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Here's Willy

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and lets' not forget Joe Dimaggio for $91.00

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Mickey Mantle for $100.99

it keeps getting worse

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  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    you should seriously go kick this dudes arse up around his neck and let him wear it for a collar, Gil..
    ·p_A·
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Since they are not authenticated. I forget who it was that said it, but one board member in another post said "Too many people on eBay buy what they want and not what they are looking at." I think I quoted that right. It is a very true statement and explains why terrible forgeries still manage to sell, even though the price is much less than legit autos.
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    the guy who won the mantle and one other has an ebay store so they'll both probably end up for sale in his store. the mick definitely looks bad.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Allen- I think that was jimq. It definitely rings true.
  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    I guess Kirk Welch thought enough of the Mays and Mantle to give them a shot.
    He'll probably try and get them authenticated cheap, then try and triple his money in his store...
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭


    << <i>I guess Kirk Welch thought enough of the Mays and Mantle to give them a shot.
    He'll probably try and get them authenticated cheap, then try and triple his money in his store... >>



    as many autos as he has in his store he must know a good mantle when he sees one but the M's look bad to me.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I guess Kirk Welch thought enough of the Mays and Mantle to give them a shot.
    He'll probably try and get them authenticated cheap, then try and triple his money in his store... >>



    as many autos as he has in his store he must know a good mantle when he sees one but the M's look bad to me. >>




    not to mention the "K"
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    if thats a real mantle auto, ill kiss his azz lol, the m's arent right, sure dont look like the ball i used to have ,wish i still had it for comparrison
    randy
  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    Gotta remember that this is a 60's Mantle, not the late 70's and 80's Mantle signature which became an institution because he signed the thing so many damn times.
    Mantles signature has drastically changed from the 50's to his card convention days in the 80's and this one could fit quite nicely into that time period
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    , your sig does change alot with age ive noticed, now that im old lol-we were comparing sid luckman football autos on another post and none of em looked like my psa/dna one from 1950 bowman, he was 30 somethig then maybe,signed in ballpoint pen,like the genteman below me, this is in sharpie FAKE-the others that psa dindt grade for a guy were alot more recent ones ,and his sig had changed alot to,mickey signed so many ball and stuff im surpirised he just diddnt put m.m. lie some of the guys do now,modern players have some pretty sad looking signatures, like reading a doctors prescription !
    randy
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭


    << <i>Gotta remember that this is a 60's Mantle, not the late 70's and 80's Mantle signature which became an institution because he signed the thing so many damn times.
    Mantles signature has drastically changed from the 50's to his card convention days in the 80's and this one could fit quite nicely into that time period >>



    when did they start using sharpies? was it back in the 60's? i say that Mick is fake.
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    on his Mantle listing he says Mantle and Martin showed up together in the 60's at the restaurant. without looking at Martin's playing/coaching record - wasn't martin traded in the late 50's so Mantle couldn't party with him?
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    im not sure when sharpies came out,but im pretty sure now that you mentioned that, if this is suppposed to be a 60s autograph, i sure never saw a sharpie in the 60s, i remember big think magic markers that would would write stuff on out helmets in nam on, but no sharpies
    randy
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    Sharpies were invented in 1964

    Sharpie
  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963


    << <i>

    << <i>I guess Kirk Welch thought enough of the Mays and Mantle to give them a shot.
    He'll probably try and get them authenticated cheap, then try and triple his money in his store... >>



    as many autos as he has in his store he must know a good mantle when he sees one but the M's look bad to me. >>



    Wasn't Mantle on his "death bed" when he signed? Maybe he was a little shakey?
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    No the guy was on his death bed, not mantle. Isn't that picture from late in Mantle's career? For some reason I was thinking 1968 or something, you see that pic a lot. It is fake for sure as it is much more slanted than Mantle ever signs, Mantles rookie sig sure was sweet, you almost never see it though. A guy at the last show had a Clemens ball signed in his Rookie season and it was a clean, big sig right on the sweet spot. It was GAI, the guy claimed it was a HR ball that Clemens gave up and he got Clemens to sign it. I thought about getting it and crossing it to PSA/DNA Rookie Ink thing and see what it would fetch on eBay.
  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963
    yea, guess it helps to read more than the first line..............dammit!
  • TNTonPMSTNTonPMS Posts: 2,279 ✭✭
    I was talking to a gentleman the other day about autographs as he was doing some authenticating at a memorabila shop .

    A man had brought in a few Mickey Mantle autos on various things.

    He was saying something about one or two of the items not being authentic but they were a Mickey Mantle authorized signature .

    It seems The Mick had at one time authorized someone to sign his name to some stuff .

    I really didn't ask too many more questions because he had a few tables full of stuff to get through, but I thought that very strange and I had wondered how many people had bought these things not knowing the difference ??

    Has anyone on the board ever heard anything like this ?
  • onlyanumberonlyanumber Posts: 2,433


    << <i>on his Mantle listing he says Mantle and Martin showed up together in the 60's at the restaurant. without looking at Martin's playing/coaching record - wasn't martin traded in the late 50's so Mantle couldn't party with him? >>



    You are correct. Martin was traded in 57 and spent the next three or four years with various clubs. He was employed in the Minnesota organization from 62-68, before becoming manager.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • fab4fab4 Posts: 280 ✭✭


    << <i>when did they start using sharpies? was it back in the 60's? i say that Mick is fake. >>



    he never he said he signed it in the 60's at the hospital. he signed it the grand opening of his resturant, could have been years later



    << <i><< on his Mantle listing he says Mantle and Martin showed up together in the 60's at the restaurant. without looking at Martin's playing/coaching record - wasn't martin traded in the late 50's so Mantle couldn't party with him? >> >>



    it could have been in the off season, and he never said they showed up together at the resturant in the 60's . he was visited in the hospital by mantle in the 60's

    i was a an insurance banquet in dallas and mickey mantle was the guest speaker, by the time the night was over he had had a few drinks and you couldn't read his signature.

    ted williams son signed a lot of stuff.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    true fab4, mick was known to have a drink now and the lol-he jst moght not have been seening to good when that was signed! alot of the biggies had "ghost signers" that for sure!they probably tried to sign what the couod if they cared, but it would have to get overwhelming, now they have the "autopen" lol, saves time
    ,randy
  • gilgil Posts: 988
    Any other opinions about this seller ?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yes, Don't buy from him if you intend to flip anything.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • erinstubbyerinstubby Posts: 455


    << <i>if thats a real mantle auto, ill kiss his azz lol, the m's arent right, sure dont look like the ball i used to have ,wish i still had it for comparrison
    randy >>



    the whole name isn't right!
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    I am looking at a repro Mantle signature I have on some of the old Reserve Life Insurance How to Hit and the only main difference is the Y, but even its not much off the mark.
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    the M's are not tall enough and the long part on the bottom of the M's does not go that far across
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