Enough baseball posts already, when does a real sport (NFL football) get posted about.
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Baseball is for wimps
Bring on some grid iron glory baby.
Bring on some grid iron glory baby.
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Chris
<< <i>Wimps play 16 games a year...Real men play 162 games a year! >>
Only baseball could take something so boring as a major league 3 hour game and prolong it to 162 games plus the playoffs.
They way things are now, the actual "game time" of an NFL football game is about 15 minutes.
Buch of pansys if you ask me
<< <i>Now football would be a really tough game full of manly men if the game clock stopped after the conclusion of each play. If that happened, an hour of football (4 fifteen minute quarters) would be an actual hour of football. >>
And last about ten hours!
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Shane
<< <i>Philadelphia Eagles will be a whompin' and a stompin' everybody this season. Cowboys lose two for sure to the Eagles. Bears lose their meeting with the Eagles. I'm predicting a losing season for both these teams, Bears might go 8 - 8. >>
By both of these teams you mean the Bears and Eagles right?
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Yeah, and before you say 'steroids' for the baseball players...if there is a single person in the world that thinks performance enhacers are not running not used widely in the NFL, then that is the single dumbest person in the world.
Yeah, I want to cheer for Ray Lewis or Pac Man Jones. Yuck.
Though I have always loved NFL football, and have always had enough attention span to allow for both sports...as well as the NBA
<< <i>Wimps play 16 games a year...Real men play 162 games a year! >>
LOL, please... Even my lackluster conditioning and moderate physique could withstand a 162-game baseball season. I likely couldn't muster one NFL game unless I was a punter. Baseball is only something to pass the time until football starts again. Baseball knows this, which is why they try to schedule their PLAYOFF games so that they don't have to try to compete (which they can't) with a REGULAR SEASON football game.
<< <i> Baseball is only something to pass the time until football starts again. Baseball knows this, which is why they try to schedule their PLAYOFF games so that they don't have to try to compete (which they can't) with a REGULAR SEASON football game. >>
Exactly..Proof is in the TV ratings and merchandise sales...
If I didn't play Fantasy baseball, I wouldn't follow it at all...For me, sitting down to watch a baseball game on TV is pure boredom. GOING to a game is still fun for the most part, but my kids think it's boring as heck. I live in the Dallas area and attended at least one game of each sport last year (NBA, MLB, NFL) with the kids...They rank the experience 1-NFL, 2-NFL, 3-NFL, 4-NBA (was a playoff game), 5-MLB (was Rangers vs. Yankees)...I think that is indicative of where the mass audience in this country has been heading for the past few years...
The new NFL conduct policy is going to go along way to cleaning up the off-field BS you hear about. Pacman is out for the year, plus no one cheers for the Titans anyway do they??
Jason
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<< <i>Bears might go 8 - 8.
Check out how the Super Bowl losers have done lately in their next season and it's not so farfetched that the Bears go 8 - 8.
Greg
<< <i>Football, Basketball & Hockey were invented to pass the time between the World Series and Spring Training.
Greg >>
You got it perhaps half right, but the game of football is so much more complex than baseball, and it ain't even close, and I understand both games quite well. I don't think I've learned anything new about baseball in decades - most seasons I still learn things about football. TRULY understanding football takes more "intellect" than understanding baseball.
Look at some of the "dopes" out there who manage MLB teams. These guys wouldn't be able to properly coach a high school football team let alone a professional football team. Even the worst NFL coaches are smarter and wiser than even some of the top MLB managers.
I think cameocards was directing it more at the dopes/jar heads who follow football. Baseball fans are more often likened to guys like George Will, while football to Al Bundy.
The number one reason why football is more watched is gambling, pure and simple. The second most is the 'car accident' part of the violence. Then there are the guys like SteveK who are in it for more than that and are more of a thinking fan(this is the minority sector though).
I agree with SteveK that coaching football is much harder than coaching baseball...strategy wise.
That more dopes watch football than baseball?
That gambling isn't the driving force behind football's viewership?
No, I don't have hard data to back up the dope statement...but it is a fairly strong observational argument.
The gambling? If one can't see that one, then that proves the dope argument. BUt if you really need evidence, simply go to any Super Bowl party, and that will tell you alllll you need to know about the 'fans' who are watching the game.
ALso, if you like football, great...but why do you need to make yourself feel better by putting something else down in order to validate your like for something? Just look at the title of the thread and your first post, it is almost as if you have to put down the sport that a lot of people enjoy, just so you can raise your self esteem on the sport you follow. Why not a simple "I can't wait for football to start," and leave out any negative reference towards anything else? What purpose does it serve to have baseball as the put down?
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And there are just as many ignorant 'Al Bundy' types who watch and enjoy baseball as there are football.
It was Drewsefs second post about boredom that I meant.
I know all too well that baseball has its Al Bundy types.
Grote, a lot of the factors you mentioned are true.
BUT,
Does it make football fans feel better about themselves to know that they are watching a sport that is the most watched? Why does that matter? Why would a football fan have to put another sport down to validate theirs? Either they are truly insecure, or they feel in their heart that they are actually following the least loved sport....otherwise there would be no need for the put down.
I love football, and I love baseball, and I don't care at all about soccer...but if somebody does love soccer there is no need to tell them that their sport s u c k s and is boring. It isn't as if I need to crusade against another sport for fear that they may not televise the sport I watch. In that case I could see a crusade against another sport...for the sheer survival of viewership possibility.
Does it make football fans feel better about themselves to know that they are watching a sport that is the most watched? Why does that matter? Why would a football fan have to put another sport down to validate theirs? Either they are truly insecure, or they feel in their heart that they are actually following the least loved sport....otherwise there would be no need for the put down.
I agree with you there skin, 100%.
Now, can you please go check the community message board where there is a new thread implying that Dave Kingman was a better hitter than Harmon Killebrew?
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<< <i>Ax,
It was Drewsefs second post about boredom that I meant. >>
To which you called the NFL a league of 'thugs and murderers'. You call out football fans, saying they have to put down other sports to 'feel better' about themselves. Everything I had read in this thread up to your post was light-hearted banter. So what if football fans prefer football over baseball - they can't come out and say that? I didn't see anyone seriously insulting baseball or its fans. I didn't see anyone seriously calling football players 'wimps' for playing 16 games. Why does someone call out people for putting down other sports, then come right around and do the same thing himself?
My thugs comment was along those lines as well...though they were negative comments about football, and you are a bit correct on that. They do have violent criminals, and that statement is true, and not quite like saying something is "boring," with the intent to make 'my' sport more interesting. So it is a little different.
But my last sentence says that I love football
I enjoy MLB, but I don't go out of my way to knock other sports, just to make me feel better about my interest...like the thread title is.
I lost interest in the NBA big time. I simply dont' like the game anymore. I don't question why people would waste their time watching it. Heck, if somebody liked to rub cheese on their balls and let their dog lick it off, good for them.
But the "stereotype" of football players being dumb, and football fans being dumb, was long ago worn out in my opinion. Are there some dumb football fans out there?...Well of course there are but as Axtell implied...there are some dumb baseball fans as well.
I totally agree that neither sport needs to be "put down" to uplift the other sport - both sports are great sports in their own domain. But in my view cameocards implied that baseball fans have more "intellect" than football fans and that in my opinion simply isn't correct.
I agree.
<< <i> let's see some of your famous statistics to back up the ignorant garbage in your last post >>
I must say that I find this sort of comment distasteful. Unfortunately, I see a fair amount of this in many threads both here and elsewhere. It’s one of the reasons that I don’t post very much. There is no intelligent dialogue with this sort of mentality. On this thread, it seems to me that skinpinch has most of the bases
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I give you Norv Turner (may last one year), Herm Edwards (never known as Einstein), Art Shell (since fired), Dom Capers (since fired), Dennis Green (they were what we thought they were), Mike 'Meathead' Tice. There's a few for ya!
As soon as they start testing for steroids
<< <i>I enjoy regular season football better than regular season baseball but I do enjoy postseason baseball just as much as playoff football.. Make sense? >>
Yes, the regular season at 162 games is excruciatingly long and individual games don't seem to matter much until the postseason, football
with just 16 regular season games has a higher importance factor with every game.
randy