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card_collectors_corner - Anyone have experience with this seller?

Looks good but I'm leery of giving money to another great lakes auction type seller.

Surely someone here knows.

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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Wish I lived a little closer or I would go see if I could check them out in person. Sorry! Never have bought from them, so I have no idea.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No negatives in the last year, 99.6% overall positive, and a 4.7 out of 5.0 item as described rating, and a return policy if found to be altered or not authentic. What exactly scares you about this seller?
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    same people as great_lakes_auction I would ALMOST bet money on it.
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>same people as great_lakes_auction I would ALMOST bet money on it. >>



    Exactly. That is what I'm thinking. Michigan location, similar descriptions. Just change the background on the pic.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Funny you mention this. I was looking at one of their cards and the description looked hauntingly similiar.

    c_c_c's auction:

    Hello, up for auction is an ORIGINAL 1957 Topps Ted Williams card #1. This very popular card of the Teddy Ballgame is in NEAR MINT condition (card is 100% authentic and is unaltered), has absolutely no creases and no wrinkles, no paperloss, no stains, and no inkmarks. The front has sharp focus, corners are nice with light tip wear, has great centering (extremely tough to find this card centered), is very clean, has shiny original gloss, and has vibrant colors. The back is very clean and has near perfect centering. Stunning card of the popular slugger, tough to find them in this nice of condition, a card for the professional graders!!!! Bid with confidence, satisfaction is guaranteed. All of our sportscards have been closely inspected and are guaranteed to be authentic and unaltered or you will recieve all of your money back. Please check out our other quality sportscards we have listed. Please include $3.25 for safe, secure, and quick shipping, .25 for each additional card won. WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THIS LIKE A REAL AUCTION, BIDDING ON THIS FINE ITEM STARTS AT ***ONE PENNY***. Insurance is optional, at the buyer's request. We accept checks and money orders. The winning bidder will be emailed within 24 hours with payment information. THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND GOOD LUCK BIDDING.

    Card Collectors Corner has been an Ebay vendor for many years, is an Ebay powerseller, and believes in honesty and customer satisfaction, please view the many positive feedbacks left by our happy customers.

    G_L's auction:

    This, 100% authentic, 1954 Topps baseball Willie Mays #90 card is BEAUTIFUL looking with the paper stock showing a wave to it(primarily noticed when card is tilted in right light angle) and has NICE centering. This much desired HOFer's card also displays: fabulous original colors, wet-looking sheen(wow), virtually flawless factory finish, no paper loss, razor sharp focus, and has no creases. The corners are nice with less than average aging. The back of this awesome card is clean with light even toning and has crisp edges. This New York/San Francisco Giants legend's card would make a magnificent addition for any collection. We guarantee this card is AUTHENTIC and UNTRIMMED or your money back. BIDDING STARTS AT ONLY **ONE PENNY** Please bid with confidence as your satisfaction is always guaranteed. Winning bidder pays $3.25 for safe, secure and prompt S&H with delivery confirmation (delivery confirmation only available in U.S.) and only .50 for each additional card won. Insurance is available upon buyers request. INSURANCE RATES: $50 COVERAGE=$1.30, $100 COVERAGE=$2.20 AND $1.00 PER ADDITIONAL $100 COVERAGE. We only accept, cashier's checks, money orders and personal checks. Please send payment within 7-10 days of auction's ending. Thank you for your consideration and good luck bidding. WE STRIVE FOR COMPLETE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, PLEASE VIEW OUR FEEDBACKS. Here is what one of our many valued customers had to say about their experience with Great Lakes Auction House, "great transaction,fast delivery,and super nice card, would highly recommend"

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    Neither take PayPal and both are located in Michigan...

    You make the call!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>No negatives in the last year, 99.6% overall positive, and a 4.7 out of 5.0 item as described rating, and a return policy if found to be altered or not authentic. What exactly scares you about this seller? >>



    This one we know buys mid grade holders, busts them out and sells using a great description.

    great lakes

    This is close to the same tactics.

    card collectors
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>No negatives in the last year, 99.6% overall positive, and a 4.7 out of 5.0 item as described rating, and a return policy if found to be altered or not authentic. What exactly scares you about this seller? >>



    Because they buy good looking lower graded slabs, crack the slab, and then sell raw. Minor flaws, which give it the lower grade (ie slight surface wrinkle), are briefly mentioned and lost within the fluff.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • I just looked at the description for one of their cards currently up for auction...

    The front has great centering (difficult to find centered), has perfect focus, has heavy creasing, packfresh colors, and is spotless. The back is very clean, has heavy creasing, and has very nice centering.

    They mix in a heavy creasing in w/ the positives of the card and hope the buyer misses it. At least they mention it, but... buyers beware, read the the item description carefully.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Minor flaws, which give it the lower grade (ie slight surface wrinkle), are briefly mentioned and lost within the fluff. >>



    I understand, but he does mention everything. If the buyer can not see past the "fluff" as you call it, then shame on the buyer. Those auctions look perfect for raw set builders with a preference towards eye appeal.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is close to the same tactics.

    card collectors >>



    In my opinion as long as any flaws are mentioned, cracking a graded card and selling it raw is not a big deal. It may bother bidders looking to win the card and send it to PSA for a high grade, but once they read the flaw they arent going to purchase it anyway (becaus the flaw wont allow it to grade high), so no one is harmed except the bidder that cant see past the fluff (see above).
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭
    Agreed. Some just need to watch out if expecting a grade of 7 or higher. The pics could be larger in order to see the corners better. When you blow them up they distort.

    I believe that great lakes was asked at one time if the cards were ever in holders. I think the answer was either "no" or they did not give a reply.

    To their credit they did restate the guarantee and may actually stand behind it.

    Some would say that a truthful answer about previous grading is appropriate when asked.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Minor flaws, which give it the lower grade (ie slight surface wrinkle), are briefly mentioned and lost within the fluff. >>



    I understand, but he does mention everything. If the buyer can not see past the "fluff" as you call it, then shame on the buyer. Those auctions look perfect for raw set builders with a preference towards eye appeal. >>



    It is "fluff" when you oversell the qualities and barely mention, if at all, the flaws.

    Here's a good example:

    64 Mays

    They do say "a very faint factory tone speck on lower right border(hardly noticed)" but not one word about the centering.

    I'm guessing that use to be in a 7 or 8 OC holder.

    Is it illegal? No... Is it ethical by not disclosing it came from a cracked Qed slab? That depends on your opinion.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>but not one word about the centering. >>



    If there is a scan I do not need a seller to tell me about centering that I can see for myself. I want to hear about the things I cant see in the scan. But thats just me.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some would say that a truthful answer about previous grading is appropriate when asked. >>



    If asked, then yes I agree with you.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    Be very careful... i would avoid. chaz
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>Be very careful... i would avoid. chaz >>



    Chaz forgot to mention that cards that sharp could be sheet cut, and that PSA does not grade sheet cuts.

    There may, however, be other grading companies that are not so discriminating.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Those auctions look perfect for raw set builders with a preference towards eye appeal

    correct, but they are trying to get those "submitters" to spend that extra $$ on a raw card in hopes of it grading, when they KNOW it won't. So you pay 6 SMR to try and get thet PSA 7 and it comes back a 4 cause of a hairline crease. Illegal? NO! Unscrupulous...ABSO 'f'in' LUTELY
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So you pay 6 SMR to try and get thet PSA 7 and it comes back a 4 cause of a hairline crease. Illegal? NO! Unscrupulous...ABSO 'f'in' LUTELY >>



    As I said earlier, as long as the flaws are described, no "submitter" with any sense will submit because of the described flaw.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Be very careful... i would avoid. chaz >>



    Chaz forgot to mention that cards that sharp could be sheet cut, and that PSA does not grade sheet cuts.

    There may, however, be other grading companies that are not so discriminating. >>






    Boopotts also forgot to mention that they could be hand cut and PSA will grade those.... chaz
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