another real class act on ebay

dizzle

ok so i follow all psa 10 and bgs 9.5 1988 fleer basketball cards (one of my favorite sets) and i see this 1988 fleer jordan psa 10 here

psa 10

i do not bid given the sellers feedback but watch anyway to see where it goes. at the end of the auction the i see the bidders feedback and decide to see what he has bid on and discover its all this sellers stuff a definite shill here the items bid on by the winner

items bid on by winner

so i decide to report this guy for shilling and not to my suprise ebay says they find no evidence of shilling and do nothing. now the jordans back up for auction again.

relisted jordan psa 10

so why does ebay do nothing about this? i can't stand sellers who pull this crap. in the end hopefully what goes around comes around. thoughts?

cravetopps

maybe they felt that since nobody got burned, they would not do anything? I don't know how it could be more clear that this was a shill.

Leiascards

One of the secrets about shill bidding is Ebay will do something about it if enough complain, BUT they do not actively go after it because it generates more fees for them.

cavalier

There have been several threads that reference this seller -- just run a search
Supposedly this seller is Gary Daggett

CavalierCards Ebay Store - LOADED

8irvin8

Thats Garys (from the pack rips) Ebay name.

Regards,
Lenny

nam812

I thought Gary was Stephanie's Closet or something like that?

8irvin8

Thats the sellers name stephaniescollectiblecloset

NathanSr

cavaliercards is out of charlottesville, VA. Wasn't gary located in California? He was back a few years ago when I sold to him through naxcom.

cavalier

Nathan,
I was just saying that stephaniescollectiblecloset is Gary Daggett - and that there were several other threads running around on him.

I'm CavalierCards -- I just always put a link ito my ebay store in any post because some of you guys will actually go look at stuff I have up - and if you want you can even bid -- Everyone have a great 4th - jeff

cohocorp

still a loser.

jmbkb4

Gary is an octopus with many, short, fat tentacles.

nam812

<< <i>I thought Gary was Stephanie's Closet or something like that? >>



I clicked on Cavalier's link, not realizing that was his own promotion, thinking that was the link to the scam. LOL

ajw

What a jackass. It only takes a few moments to report this guy. Here's what I just sent to eBay:

This item was listed earlier, and won by an obvious shill account.

Seller: stephaniescollectiblecloset
Shill Bidder: opctrader

Here's the earlier auction:230140508162

That winner ONLY bids on items from this seller. See here:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=opctrader&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3

Thanks for your help with this. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do. I look forward to your response.

Drew

AkbarClone

Wow,
I've won multiple cards from cavaliercards before (and have another one on my watch list currently). I had no idea it was another board member--always proves to be a small world.

onlyanumber

Hey Cavalier--congrats on getting the Oden card. That card sold out realll fast.

cavalier

Thanks on the Oden - when 3:00 hit the computer slowed to a crawl -- I thought it was going to lock up on me, he looks like the real deal.

Thanks Akbar -- just make sure you do more than watch -- you can bid as well

I normally don't post -- just so much other stuff to do -- but I read practically every thread (that relates to cards) -- its so much stuff you have to be aware of and there is a nice level of expertise on here. Without the mail running today -- I came into the store to get caught up on paperwork and have pretty much spent the day looking at my fantasy league baseball teams and surfing -- so much for utilizing time wisely.

handyman

When will this guy learn??

JeremyDie1

I emailed this guy. His response is he has three of these Jordans. He saids its easier to use the same pic for each auction.

handyman

Not if you check around the verification number on the jordan. Looks like he only got a 8 and a 9 and 1 10.

jimq112

Here's a quick list of his shill auctions, copy and paste to report

230139283240,230139286077,230139288716,230139289320,230140508162,
230147137044,230147148437,230147151244,230147151515,230147151854

seller stephaniescollectiblecloset
shill bidder opctrader

WinPitcher

What a real piece of work that guy is.

Steve

handyman

Did Fleer seal there sets like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1987-FLEER-BASEBALL-FACTORY-SET-BARRY-BONDS-RC-PSA-10_W0QQitemZ230140908088QQihZ013QQcategoryZ133058QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

JeremyDie1

I noticed he added a sellers note on the bottom of the listing. He basically says he has three available. you can pick the one pictured or choose the other two if available.

jmbkb4

<< <i>Here's a quick list of his shill auctions, copy and paste to report

230139283240,230139286077,230139288716,230139289320,230140508162,
230147137044,230147148437,230147151244,230147151515,230147151854

seller stephaniescollectiblecloset
shill bidder opctrader >>



done, thanks!!

1960toppsguy

I've witnessed the cavalier card guys in person and they don't use the best ethics

basestealer

You won't have much luck reporting it to eBay by explaining that your only evidence is that the buyer has bid exclusively on one seller's items over the past 30 days. Many legitimate buyers do this as well. eBay might not even bother checking into the details. What you should do is keep track of all the items that the buyer has won that the seller has relisted, and document it beyond the searchable 30 days. Even if eBay does crosscheck the two IDs in question, the likelihood that they share contact information is slim (unless the guy is a real idiot). Most shillers now falsify contact information on their shill accounts to avoid eBay's "shill software" (which, ironically, appears to only search for matching contact info).