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I recall someone said you can not list grade opinions in eBay titles, but what about descriptions?

RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
Can you state a grade opinion of an uncertified coin in an auction's description?

Thanks, Richard.

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  • << <i>Can you state a grade opinion of an uncertified coin in an auction's description?

    Thanks, Richard. >>


    Yes, as long as you say the grade is your opinion. What eBay is trying to do is prevent say someone searching for a certified MS65 Morgan and finding your auction because you have MS65 in the title.
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    << <i>Can you state a grade opinion of an uncertified coin in an auction's description?

    Thanks, Richard. >>


    Yes, as long as you say the grade is your opinion. What eBay is trying to do is prevent say someone searching for a certified MS65 Morgan and finding your auction because you have MS65 in the title. >>



    I think that is a good thing eBay is doing. I always state that the grade is my opinion if the coin is not certified, so I will have no issues then.

    Thank you all for the responses.
  • Did Ebay make a new rule or rules regarding coin selling?

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    can i list a pcgs or ngc grade in the title if the coin is pcgs or ngc certified without ebay pulling the listing?

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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did Ebay make a new rule or rules regarding coin selling?

    Sean >>




    Sean,

    Someone made a post some days back about eBay pulling their auctions because they had a specific grade in the title of the auction. The coin was not certified by any grading service. So, I think eBay is on the right track and I applaud them for this effort.

    My question was whether or not I can list a grade opinion within the auction's description. I was pretty sure I could, but I wanted to make sure.

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    << <i>can i list a pcgs or ngc grade in the title if the coin is pcgs or ngc certified without ebay pulling the listing? >>



    As long as the coin is certified by some grading service, then yes, that is fine. So, if you have a PCGS MS65 coin, then title it as such. Same goes for ANACS, NGC, ICG, PCI, etc. As long as it is slabbed is what eBay is looking for. That was my understanding.

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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What am I missing here. Just looked around Ebay and there are lots of raw coins with a grade in the title.
    Has Ebay just not caught them?
    Larry

  • They're missing some, just did a search in Morgans for 1880-o ms67, ms66 and ms65. But it's a step in the right poop pile.

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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    This is ridiculous. With all due respect to PCGS (et al), grading is a technical opinion and not exclusive to the TPGs -- and certainly not reliable over the breadth of "TPG"s on eBay. The grades go back far before the advent of certification and the numerical grades to Sheldon. There is no reason the keys to reliable grading should ever be turned over to a TPG or some group of TPGs. Yes, their grading assessments are market standards and a general improvement over what we had before. That doesn't mean everyone who graded before and (non-TPG) since were problems. People will still get burned as always in raw coins as well as misgraded and gradeflated certified coins from ALL TPGs. Not in all of them, but some of them. People need to learn to grade for themselves and evaluate their risks in each and every sale. This has never changed just the risks have been handled in part by TPG guarantees.

    This is Meg' sandbox and she (and the other powers that be) can make the rules. They can be ridiculous rules and even misguided well-meaning rules to protect ones from oneself. However, I would like to know how they handle raw grades in lot titles for eBay Live auctions for Heritage, Superior, Stacks, ... Will they force the cataloguers' hands to remove their grading opinions or not allow them to sell raw rarities? I doubt it since they represent real $$$ to the eBay shareholder bottomline.
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  • This raises an interesting question. Does Ebay consider ANY grading service legit as long as it has a name and a slab? image

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  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone have a link to ebay's new regulation, if there is one? It sounds unworkable, if not silly, to try to stop sellers from listing a Sheldon number or for that matter "XF" in a title. If you want a PCGS MS65, not a raw coin, just search with those two terms.

    I think the intent discussed here is to prevent keyword spamming like "MS65" together with "PCGS $2500" on a ten-dollar slider in a cardboard flip. The other is to prevent sellers from listing a made-up slab company's "grade" and then ripping off PCGS' and NGC's price guides and putting them in the description.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If this is true then ebay is protecting fourth-world slab scammers at the expense of honest, or not, collectors and sellers of raw coinage.
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  • I've never had an auction pulled. Over the past 2 months I've run hundreds for raw coins. I state my grade opinion in both the title and the auction description. And why not? Any grade is an opinion. I think my opinion is better than that of some 3rd world grading "services".

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