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LincolnCentMan
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LincolnCentMan
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LincolnCentMan
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Is it in a slab?
If it is what slab and grade
-David
a bare bones judgement.
anacs is often the TPG of last resort, you do know that right?
dealers send it to pcgs, it BBs. then they send it to pcgs again,
because TPGs are humans and the dealer is wise, it BBs.
so then they send it to anacs and lo and behold it gets into a
problem free holder. the dealer then procedes to dump the coin
on ebay for a 10% profit.
you get it in hand and sorta like it. everyone likes newps.
3 months later you hate it. sell on ebay for a slight loss.
otherwise i like the "possible look the coin may have in hand".
Only for people that dont have the skills to grade and determine origionality for them selves.
-David
<< <i>That's just the sort of blinkered, Philistine pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome, spotty behinds squeezing blackheads, not caring a tinker's cuss about the struggling collector! You excrement! You lousy, hypocritical, whining toadies with your lousy color TV sets and your Tony Jacklin golf clubs and your bleeding masonic handshakes! >>
If that is the most thoughtful "YOU SUCK" award I've ever witnessed .... there isn't a "you suck" award.
Only for people that dont have the skills to grade and determine origionality for them selves.
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how about because you will at least end up with the coin slabbed?
i have no idea what you mean.
also you state you bought the coin from a pic. your original coin may
show up a turd. hope you got a return policy for just that occasion.
or it could be really nice.
I've had coins certify at PCGS and NGC after the other guy bagged them. And there's no way to say if the first guy or last guy was right. We'd all be surprised at what eventually gets through after many tries. That ANACS coin could someday get cracked out and wind up in a PCGS or NGC holder.
roadrunner
this is not about your coin. i hope you realize that. i wish that
you deem the coin worthy of your collection once you can inspect
it in hand.
roadrunner, what tpg do most dealers want their coins in when
selling?
the ones that do not cut it at pcgs often get sent to anacs knowing
it will at least get slabbed. problem or non-problem free slab ;-)
that is my point. one really has to be leery of ebay+anacs right now.
with a return policy though you really take a lot less risk.
imagine buying sight unseen. what a setup for disaster buying
anacs coins right now without them being in hand.
Have you ever bought a coin online that wasnt based on a pic?
PCGS, NGC, ANACS.... there's not a TPGS out there that doesnt have cleaned or problem coins in their holders. The holder just provides a strong assurance that the coin isnt counterfeit and provides a non-seller based grade. It's because of people like you that people like me can cherry pick nice coins in ANACS holders.
-David
below. How can you even make a judgement call on that coin
from that picture? Look at how the toning has been ripped away
from the fields around the obverse stars. Notice liberty is complete
dirt free almost with no toning. That to me says, possibly, cleaned,
dipped, and or processed in some way.
there's not a TPGS out there that doesnt have cleaned or problem coins in their holders.
I agree. I totally agree.
The holder just provides a strong assurance that the coin isnt counterfeit and provides a non-seller based grade.
once again i agree. i like anacs for that reason above with problem
coins.
It's because of people like you that people like me can cherry pick nice coins in ANACS holders.
you get so defensive! you are so confident! but you have given
me the tired canned answer we always here talking about tpgs.
you have a great eye picking out coins from so-so pics. congratulations.
In fact, this entire exchange is a good example of why a lot of collectors no longer frequent this board. I came in trying to share my joy with friends on the board, and you take the opportunity to point out your views on ANACS holders. Wow, what a lot of fun this is. Not.
-David
i think the coin is great. i love it. i hope it turns out to be a happy
ending and i am confident it will.
I thought you said this was not about my coin. Man, I rarely make judgement calls on people, but your just a jerk.
This will be my last reply to this post. You've taken the fun out of sharing.
-David
<< <i>your original coin may show up a turd. hope you got a return policy for just that occasion. or it could be really nice. >>
Sounds like you have all your bases covered. I'm sure lincolncentman is aware of the risk of purchasing a coin online--yes, they usually do show up either as turds, or really nice, or about as advertised. There really isn't any other possibility.
I love your Dollar LCM, very nice looking to me
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I think it is a great looking coin. Congrats on the purchase.
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etexmike
<< <i>Oh, I get it, fc is the expert who can assess the coin from the pic LCM posted, at least enough to know "it HAS to be questionable, it's in an ANACS slab!" Sheesh. I think the coin looks nice and origional (from the pics). News for ya, NOBODY is going to know for sure, 100% positively that ANY coin, bought off a pic, will look the same in hand.....DUH!
I love your Dollar LCM, very nice looking to me
True and only one part of the equation is "what would a dealer do", the other aspect is what would a collector do? And I know quite a few collectors that prefer ANACS--seen a lot of nice coins in those slabs, but again I ignore slabs entirely and just judge the coin. In the end, it's always about the coin, not the motivations or conspiracy behind the people selling it.
<< <i> That ANACS coin could someday get cracked out and wind up in a PCGS or NGC holder. >>
Yeah. And suddenly, without changing one bit, it will be a "better coin."
Slabbers are way too powerful in this hobby.
Good luck...
that is what i have been shown.
maybe next time the original poster will wait until the coin actually
arrives to him before posting. but that takes a bit of patience and
will power.
I think ANACS is being unfairly labeled here. In my opinion, it is in no way the TPG of last resort. Plenty of folks send to ANACS first because they know the coin will at least be authenticated. For Seated dollars that matters. Also for coins that worth under $150, ANACS often used to be preferred because it was cheaper to submit to them.
I will concede that ANACS holdered coins trade at a discount, especially at wholesale when offered to a dealer. The more the grade figures in the price, and the higher the price, the bigger the discount. Even if a coin is all there, dealer offers on ANACS coins are usually going to be lower because they know they will probably have to take the time and money to cross it, in order to get full value when selling.
For circulated grades, I wouldn't worry so much. On mint state coins, it can be a much bigger deal. Actually for classics in circulated grades, ANACS coins might average out as more original than some other companies, because it is easy to net grade the coin, without reaching for the big stick of returning the coin in a bag.
Congrats, Dave!
I knew it would happen.
I like that coin alot. It looks like it could be AU. I don't think you can get hurt buying that for that money. Seller has 100% feedback.
Enjoy it
LincolnCentMan... I like the coin. I do.
The blue color on the rim is a bit questionable, but without it in hand, it's hard to say if the coin has any problems. I think YOU SUCK
And you have a good choice in coins !
Joe
I like it!
<< EF 45??? That dollar looks AU to me >>
Thank You! My sentiments exactly!
YO ... Dave - YOU SUCK!
The newp is nice for the grade and better then most offered old cleaning perhaps , but who cares its a real nice example regardless.
I agree, but don't let it get to ya, David. Just keep on having fun and sharing the enjoyment with us.
RR