New Type Set Definition

JoeLewis

Anyone else (besides me) interested in forming a type set using this definition?

1. A new type is created when there is a major design change in the obverse or reverse of a coin.
2. Change in metallic content does not constitute a new type.
3. Minor design changes (rays, arrows, motto, stars, drapery, legend, initials, recessed date, etc.) do not constitute a new type.
4. Changes in weight or diameter do not constitute a new type.
5. Changes in mintmark location does not constitute a new type.
6. Circulating commemortaive series (presedential dollars, state quarters, Westward Journey nickels, etc.) will be represented by just one example.
7. Only "business strike" coins will be used.

This is my final definition for my type set (really "major design" set.) I just wondered if this set is appealing to anyone else.

Cladiator

That's the beauty of type sets, you can define them how ever you like based on your own personal opinion and interests. Here is the type set that I defined and am currently working on.

Southern Silver Type Set

JoeLewis

For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust
3. Capped Bust
4. Liberty Seated
5. Barber
6. Walking Liberty
7. Franklin
8. Kennedy
9. Kennedy Bicentennial

JoeLewis

<< <i>That's the beauty of type sets, you can define them how ever you like based on your own personal opinion and interests. Here is the type set that I defined and am currently working on.

Southern Silver Type Set >>



Sweet!

Lately I've been wanting to do a type set that only includes coins that have a bison in the design (there's more than I thought!)

Cladiator

<< <i>For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust
3. Capped Bust
4. Liberty Seated
5. Barber
6. Walking Liberty
7. Franklin
8. Kennedy
9. Kennedy Bicentennial >>

Going by your rule #1 in the OP wouldn't you have to have two types of Draped Bust Half Dollar in the set? The Small Eagle type and the Heraldic Eagle type?

Also, would you split the Capped Bust Halves up into the standard 1807-1836 type and the later reeded edge coins with a totally different design?

JoeLewis

<< <i>

<< <i>For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust (small eagle)
3. Draped Bust (large eagle)
4. Capped Bust
5. Liberty Seated
6. Barber
7. Walking Liberty
8. Franklin
9. Kennedy
10. Kennedy Bicentennial >>

Going by your rule #1 in the OP wouldn't you have to have two types of Draped Bust Half Dollar in the set? The Small Eagle type and the Heraldic Eagle type? >>



Whoops.

tradedollarnut

<< <i>For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust
3. Capped Bust
4. Liberty Seated
5. Barber
6. Walking Liberty
7. Franklin
8. Kennedy
9. Kennedy Bicentennial >>



What is the logic behind including the normal and bicentennial reverse for the Kennedy half but ignoring the different reverses for the state quarters?

JoeLewis

<< <i>

<< <i>For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust
3. Capped Bust
4. Liberty Seated
5. Barber
6. Walking Liberty
7. Franklin
8. Kennedy
9. Kennedy Bicentennial >>



What is the logic behind including the normal and bicentennial reverse for the Kennedy half but ignoring the different reverses for the state quarters? >>



As stated in the OP, only one representative of a circulating commemorative is required.

tradedollarnut

<< <i>What is the logic behind including the normal and bicentennial reverse for the Kennedy half but ignoring the different reverses for the state quarters? >>



As stated in the OP, only one representative of a circulating commemorative is required. >>



OK - I was just wondering why you ignored the change in reverse of the draped bust halves and then included it for the Kennedy, but you seem to have fixed that.

JoeLewis

To be honest with you, all of this stems from two issues for me.

1. Having to buy six different liberty seated half dollars, when the changes are so minor (to me at least.)
2. Not wanting to purchase the overkill "types" the mint is putting out now (state quarters, pres dollars, etc.)

Cladiator

Incidently, by adding the Draped Bust Small Eagle 50¢ to the set you've made the set non-completable by 99% of the collector population. 1796 and 1797 are the only two dates and I believe they sell for 30K+ in Good.

JoeLewis

<< <i>Incidently, by adding the Draped Bust Small Eagle 50¢ to the set you've made the set non-completable by 99% of the collector population. 1796 and 1797 are the only two dates and I believe they sell for 30K+ in Good. >>



True. There's no way to have a complete type set (1792-present) without having the "collection stoppers." I've accepted the fact that I will never be able to complete this type set

I've considered cutting off the type set at the capped bust series (or something like that) so that I can have the piece of mind of actually completing a type set.

Cladiator

<< <i>

<< <i>Incidently, by adding the Draped Bust Small Eagle 50¢ to the set you've made the set non-completable by 99% of the collector population. 1796 and 1797 are the only two dates and I believe they sell for 30K+ in Good. >>



True. There's no way to have a complete type set (1792-present) without having the "collection stoppers." I've accepted the fact that I will never be able to complete this type set >>

So define one that you can complete

tradedollarnut

<< <i>To be honest with you, all of this stems from two issues for me.

1. Having to buy six different liberty seated half dollars, when the changes are so minor (to me at least.)
2. Not wanting to purchase the overkill "types" the mint is putting out now (state quarters, pres dollars, etc.) >>



I agree with you there - all those arrows and mottos and stuff get a bit redundant. It's easy to ignore the two types of draped bust halves as well - just state that reverse/obverse design combinations will be ignored if reflected in the set elsewhere.

If it were up to me, I would consider doing two seated liberty halves. The first would be an 1853 with arrows and rays no motto coin and the second would be a with motto coin.

eyoung429

<< <i>For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust
3. Capped Bust
4. Liberty Seated
5. Barber
6. Walking Liberty
7. Franklin
8. Kennedy
9. Kennedy Bicentennial >>



Where would commems fit into this scenario? As some were used in circulation...wouldn't they also be listed here?

JoeLewis

<< <i>

<< <i>For example, the Half Dollar section would be as follows:

1. Flowing Hair
2. Draped Bust
3. Capped Bust
4. Liberty Seated
5. Barber
6. Walking Liberty
7. Franklin
8. Kennedy
9. Kennedy Bicentennial >>



Where would commems fit into this scenario? As some were used in circulation...wouldn't they also be listed here? >>



I would not because I do not believe they were intended for circulation. But I can certainly see the reasoning behind someone else including one example.

JoeLewis

<< <i>

<< <i>To be honest with you, all of this stems from two issues for me.

1. Having to buy six different liberty seated half dollars, when the changes are so minor (to me at least.)
2. Not wanting to purchase the overkill "types" the mint is putting out now (state quarters, pres dollars, etc.) >>



I agree with you there - all those arrows and mottos and stuff get a bit redundant. It's easy to ignore the two types of draped bust halves as well - just state that reverse/obverse design combinations will be ignored if reflected in the set elsewhere.

If it were up to me, I would consider doing two seated liberty halves. The first would be an 1853 with arrows and rays no motto coin and the second would be a with motto coin. >>



Good idea. Those would look different enough from each other.