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I was wondering if anybody has had a similar experience. I sent in three coins from the same mint 1969 packages. I cut out the 1969 quarter, 1969-D quarter and the 1969-S business strike nickel. Here were the results. 1969 quarter MS64, 1969-D quarter MS65 and the 1969-S nickel (altered surfaces). I did not do anything to alter the coins. I took them directly out of the original mint plastic straight into a flip. These were examined carefully through a loop to make sure there was no residue or trash. If anybody has had the same experience please let me know!image

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I once had a 1962 proof Frankie that I'd just pulled from a set bodybagged for altered surfaces. Next time through it graded PR68CAM.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    Easiest and best way to send in mint set coins is to leave them in the mylar.
    Dan
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I agree leave them in their mylar and let PCGS cut them free.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    " Easiest and best way to send in mint set coins is to leave them in the mylar."

    The only problem with that scenario is the graders never see how they were packaged. Instead, I would recommend an acetone bath prior to shipping.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The only problem with that scenario is the graders never see how they were packaged. Instead, I would recommend an acetone bath prior to shipping. >>


    How is the Acetone bath going to prevent BB for altered surfaces? I thought this was mainly to remove PVC from a coin. image
    Dan
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>" Easiest and best way to send in mint set coins is to leave them in the mylar."

    The only problem with that scenario is the graders never see how they were packaged. >>



    He's correct. They are cut out of the celo before they ever get to the grading room.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    "How is the Acetone bath going to prevent BB for altered surfaces? I thought this was mainly to remove PVC from a coin."

    After about 30 years in the Mint packaging, moisture and minting residue can cause haze on the coin, acetone should remove it.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    OK good to know that, so the awful looking 69 haze should come off with the treatment. Thanks..
    Dan
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    Altered surfaces reminds me of being pulled over for not driving straight.
    A catch-all that doesn't say much.
    image
  • 5 "unopened" mint sets with body bags
    someone doesn't like the 81D kennedy
    (don't ask why..you know I'll slab anything)

    1 1 11616635 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 2 11616636 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 3 11616637 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 4 11616638 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 5 11616639 3037 1981-D 1C US MS63RD
    2 1 11616640 3043 1981 1C US MS62RD
    2 2 11616641 3043 1981 1C US MS63RD
    2 3 11616642 3043 1981 1C US MS63RD
    2 4 11616643 3043 1981 1C US MS63RD
    2 5 11616644 3043 1981 1C US CleanedRD
    3 1 11616645 4107 1981-D 5C US MS64
    3 2 11616646 4107 1981-D 5C US MS65
    3 3 11616647 4107 1981-D 5C US MS64
    3 4 11616648 4107 1981-D 5C US MS63
    3 5 11616649 4107 1981-D 5C US MS64
    4 1 11616650 4106 1981-P 5C US MS63
    4 2 11616651 4106 1981-P 5C US MS64
    4 3 11616652 4106 1981-P 5C US MS63
    4 4 11616653 4106 1981-P 5C US MS63
    4 5 11616654 4106 1981-P 5C US MS62
    5 1 11616655 85160 1981-D 10C US MS64FB
    5 2 11616656 85160 1981-D 10C US MS65FB
    5 3 11616657 85160 1981-D 10C US MS65FB
    5 4 11616658 85160 1981-D 10C US MS66FB
    5 5 11616659 85160 1981-D 10C US MS65FB
    6 1 11616660 85159 1981-P 10C US MS64FB
    6 2 11616661 85159 1981-P 10C US MS65FB
    6 3 11616662 85159 1981-P 10C US MS64FB
    6 4 11616663 85159 1981-P 10C US MS63FB
    6 5 11616664 85159 1981-P 10C US MS64FB
    7 1 11616665 5911 1981-D 25C US MS63
    7 2 11616666 5911 1981-D 25C US MS64
    7 3 11616667 5911 1981-D 25C US MS65
    7 4 11616668 5911 1981-D 25C US MS63
    7 5 11616669 5911 1981-D 25C US MS64
    8 1 11616670 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 2 11616671 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 3 11616672 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 4 11616673 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 5 11616674 5910 1981-P 25C US MS63
    9 1 11616675 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 2 11616676 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 3 11616677 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 4 11616678 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 5 11616679 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    10 1 11616680 6739 1981-P 50C US MS63
    10 2 11616681 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64
    10 3 11616682 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64
    10 4 11616683 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64
    10 5 11616684 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64

  • emzeeemzee Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭
    Many mint-set coins from the 1968-1985 era have deep parallel striations on either obverse or reverse (not usually both) gouged into surface of the coins - I always assumed these arose somehow when the mint-set cello packaging machinery contacted the coins.

    They are frequently seen on the reverse shield of Kennedy 50c, which may explain how 5/5 mint-set 1981-D 50c could be bb'd for damage. I recall that 1969-S 5c frequently have this problem as well. PCGS may have tightened up in this regard recently, BBing the coins. They used to let it slide on Kennedies, sometimes slabbing them MS67, despite the striations.

    Sometimes, an entire mint-set issue seems to be ruined as a result of striations. In my experience trying to find a nice 1981PDS SBA $1's, in the late 80's I looked at something like 400-500 1981 mint-sets as this was the only source. 100% of my sample of 1981-S $ had obverse striations - I have never seen a 1981-S devoid of them. Sometimes they are obvious, other times they are nearly imperceptible, concealed in the hair, but always there. As I recall, 1985-D 25c from mint sets all have striations.

    Michael
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    So where did this come from? image

    2 5 11616644 3043 1981 1C US CleanedRD
    image
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    shuckins:

    Why the devil did you clean that one 1981 cent???

    PS: image
    Mark


  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    The important thing is that you pay twice to get it right once.
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I've had a similar experience. I picked the nicest coin out of an origional bank wrapped roll of wheats and sent it in to PCGS. They bagged it. I think it was for cleaning, but I'd have to look up the old invoice. The only thing I can figure is they thought that b/c it was bright red on the heads and tails, but had dark rims, it was a problem coin. Every coin in the roll had dark rims, though, I presume from the wrapper. And they were all unquestionably origional, as was the wrapping.

    -David
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>5 "unopened" mint sets with body bags
    someone doesn't like the 81D kennedy
    (don't ask why..you know I'll slab anything)

    1 1 11616635 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 2 11616636 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 3 11616637 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 4 11616638 3037 1981-D 1C US MS64RD
    1 5 11616639 3037 1981-D 1C US MS63RD
    2 1 11616640 3043 1981 1C US MS62RD
    2 2 11616641 3043 1981 1C US MS63RD
    2 3 11616642 3043 1981 1C US MS63RD
    2 4 11616643 3043 1981 1C US MS63RD
    2 5 11616644 3043 1981 1C US CleanedRD
    3 1 11616645 4107 1981-D 5C US MS64
    3 2 11616646 4107 1981-D 5C US MS65
    3 3 11616647 4107 1981-D 5C US MS64
    3 4 11616648 4107 1981-D 5C US MS63
    3 5 11616649 4107 1981-D 5C US MS64
    4 1 11616650 4106 1981-P 5C US MS63
    4 2 11616651 4106 1981-P 5C US MS64
    4 3 11616652 4106 1981-P 5C US MS63
    4 4 11616653 4106 1981-P 5C US MS63
    4 5 11616654 4106 1981-P 5C US MS62
    5 1 11616655 85160 1981-D 10C US MS64FB
    5 2 11616656 85160 1981-D 10C US MS65FB
    5 3 11616657 85160 1981-D 10C US MS65FB
    5 4 11616658 85160 1981-D 10C US MS66FB
    5 5 11616659 85160 1981-D 10C US MS65FB
    6 1 11616660 85159 1981-P 10C US MS64FB
    6 2 11616661 85159 1981-P 10C US MS65FB
    6 3 11616662 85159 1981-P 10C US MS64FB
    6 4 11616663 85159 1981-P 10C US MS63FB
    6 5 11616664 85159 1981-P 10C US MS64FB
    7 1 11616665 5911 1981-D 25C US MS63
    7 2 11616666 5911 1981-D 25C US MS64
    7 3 11616667 5911 1981-D 25C US MS65
    7 4 11616668 5911 1981-D 25C US MS63
    7 5 11616669 5911 1981-D 25C US MS64
    8 1 11616670 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 2 11616671 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 3 11616672 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 4 11616673 5910 1981-P 25C US MS64
    8 5 11616674 5910 1981-P 25C US MS63
    9 1 11616675 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 2 11616676 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 3 11616677 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 4 11616678 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    9 5 11616679 6740 1981-D 50C US Damage or Tooling
    10 1 11616680 6739 1981-P 50C US MS63
    10 2 11616681 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64
    10 3 11616682 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64
    10 4 11616683 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64
    10 5 11616684 6739 1981-P 50C US MS64 >>




    Wow, spent $14 each to grade coins which, on average, are worth roughly $1 each. WHY???
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