Latest Krause book(s) release

dcamp78

Has anyone here purchased the 35th edition of the Standard Catalog of World Coins 1901-2000?

If so, what do you think about it? There are some negative reviews about it online:

Krause book at Amazon

I'm pretty sure that they've split off 2001-Present and have moved several coins to the Unusual
Coins tome as well. I've also read that there are numerous mistakes (again).

This is BS. For the cost of the book(s) we should get QUALITY information. And make the book
spiral bound so that it will lay flat and the binding won't break after 25 uses.

Do any of you suppose that sending the folks at Krause publications a NastyGram(tm) would help?

TwoKopeiki

I heard the new edition is missing Germany ....

DesertRat

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I bought it and it was delivered a week or so ago. Germany is in it. It is a huge book however. Must weigh ten pounds.

bidask

Any significant changes in pricing?

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>I bought it and it was delivered a week or so ago. Germany is in it. It is a huge book however. Must weigh ten pounds. >>



I was just being facetious

danglen

I'm at ANA Summer Camp in Colorado Springs as is George Cuhaj from Krause. I will be happy to pass on any constructive comments to him.

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>I'm at ANA Summer Camp in Colorado Springs as is George Cuhaj from Krause. I will be happy to pass on any constructive comments to him. >>



You could print LordM's Krause Errata thread, if you want.

IstilllikeZARcoins

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TwoKopeiki

Well, one a serious note - I checked it out at the bookstore today and it appears that "MEXICO-REVOLUTIONARY" that used to be at the end of MEXICO section is no longer there... Rest in Piece, Rev-Mex...

coinpictures

This is seriously starting to piss me off. Since the 1901-2000 volume has been capped with respect to additions, i.e., new years, WHY the hell are they stripping out sections en masse?

I swear, the damned idiots at Krause are doing anything they can to make the thing more friggin' useless with every printing!

It wouldn't surprise me if their ultimate goal is to do away with the printed volumes entirely and force people into using their horrendously overpriced Numismaster service.

dcamp78

<< <i>This is seriously starting to piss me off. Since the 1901-2000 volume has been capped with respect to additions, i.e., new years, WHY the hell are they stripping out sections en masse?

I swear, the damned idiots at Krause are doing anything they can to make the thing more friggin' useless with every printing!

It wouldn't surprise me if their ultimate goal is to do away with the printed volumes entirely and force people into using their horrendously overpriced Numismaster service. >>



Yeah, I really makes me angry when businesses do this kind of crap!!!
You may be onto something there. The online idea is much better, but too expensive.
Maybe that is their plan... to wrap up a couple more years of hard copy and then go
to strictly online publications. If so, the book releases will suffer as that section of the
company is slowly shut down. Sigh. Are there any other comparable books with current
pricing?

dcamp78

<< <i>I'm at ANA Summer Camp in Colorado Springs as is George Cuhaj from Krause. I will be happy to pass on any constructive comments to him. >>



Please ask Mr. Cuhaj if he (or another Krause representative) would be willing to come online
and have a round table meeting with those of us that are interested. It doesn't have to be
today, but could be scheduled for a later date.

We're not looking to draw blood... we just want our grievances heard by someone that can
go back to Krause Publishing and convey our concerns to the editors (assuming they have them)
and management.

mrpotatoheadd

<< <i>Well, one a serious note - I checked it out at the bookstore today and it appears that "MEXICO-REVOLUTIONARY" that used to be at the end of MEXICO section is no longer there... Rest in Piece, Rev-Mex... >>

I guess they wanted to bring the SCWC in line with their North American Coins and Prices, which already doesn't include the revolutionary issues.

edited to add... I see where Krause's website says this abput the SCWC:

"2008 Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1901-2000 delivers comprehensive pricing compiled from data provided by 150 experts worldwide. One million price listings cover practically every coin minted from 1901 to 2000. In this 35th edition, you'll find virtually everything you want to know about coins struck in the 20th century."

I'm not sure I see how deleting listings from previous editions helps with "comprehensive pricing cover[ing] practically every coin minted from 1901 to 2000", but then, that's just me...

danglen

I will speak witrh George Cuhaj today and pass on your concerns. If he is agreeable, we can try to schedule an open discussion. I will keep you posted.

dcamp78

Okay.

Than ks,
Dave

DesertRat

the Marshall Islands are not in this edition.

danglen

For anyone who wants to go directly to the source, I offer the following information:

George Cuhaj, Editor
F+W Publications
700 East State Street
Iola, WI 54990-0001

Phone: 715-445-4612 Ext. 456
Fax: 715-445-4087
email: George.Cuhaj@fwpubs.com.

George's blog can be read at George's Blog.

I will try to encourage George to come to the forum.

7Jaguars

Marshalls may be in the Odd & Unusual edition.

danglen

<< <i> Marshalls may be in the Odd & Unusual edition. >>



No, they are not

coinpictures

I just received this today and my first reaction is "WTF???"

They effed up the section for Prussia BIGTIME.

Throughout the entire German States selection they have added BU listings where previously there was only a listing for UNC. In most cases the UNC price stayed the same and the BU price is higher, or the old UNC price is in between the new UNC and BU prices.

In Prussia they screwed up the math (either that or there are huge DECREASES in demand and pricing on Prussian material, but that goes opposite of my experience buying and selling).

In almost ALL cases, both the UNC and new BU prices for Prussian material are decidedly LOWER than the old UNC prices.

Examples:


KM 522 2-Mark.
1901 drops from $900 in UNC to $450 in UNC and $700 in BU.
1902 drops from $190 in UNC to $100 in UNC and $140 in BU.
Other dates follow suit.

KM 525 2-Mark. 1901-A. Drops from $48 in UNC to $30 in UNC and $40 in BU.

KM 532 2-Mark (defeat of Napoleon). 1913-A. Drops from $48 in UNC to $30 in UNC and $35 in BU. (That's just insane).

Those are just examples, but it's across the board in Prussia.

I reiterate: WTF???

DBSTrader2

I just started highlighting my collection in my 32nd edition from '05, and see that they completely changed the KM #'s for all my Argentina coins!! They seem to have added "25" to the KM # of each coin I have. Did they suddenly unearth 25 new coins in the series? At least each entry states ""Previous KM#xx".

I'm sure as I go thru my collection, I'll find a few more changes, but what's the scoop with Argentina?

- - Dave

mrpotatoheadd

FYI- the Swiss Shooting Thalers which are included in the 4th edition of the 1801-1900 SCWC are not in the 5th edition. The 5th editon is about 100 pages shorter than the 4th, so there's probably other stuff missing, too.

Save those old catalogs.

coinpictures

Yes, they have relegated the Swiss Shooting Thalers to the less-frequently-updated "Unusual World Coins" catalog. I corresponded with them at length about this and got nowhere.

I think they are deliberately trying to eff up the catalog as much as they can...

mrpotatoheadd

<< <i>I think they are deliberately trying to eff up the catalog as much as they can... >>

Well, whatever it is they're doing, I'm certainly not going to be giving away my old catalogs anymore like I used to do.

Writersblock

They are probably trying to drive people to the Numsmaster website for the online version (but does it have the same errors?) because a subscription there costs more then the book and they don't have to go to the expense of actually printing it! More profit for them.



<< <i>I'm sure as I go thru my collection, I'll find a few more changes, but what's the scoop with Argentina? >>


They renumber the countries from time to time. Especially if there have been a lot of new varieties discovered that resulted in a lot of "sub" numbers. It can get quite frustrating at times. One time they renumbered Columbia two years in a row. And there are still some countries that are still cataloged using Y#. Those will eventually get renumbered. Another reason a country get renumbered is because it may have the last two books with KM# but the earlier books cataloged using a different system. Then the extend the KM number on back into the early book and it changes all the later numbers. That is what happened to Austria. The KM# went back to 1800 and they had Craig and Davenport numbers for the earlier coins. 20th century issues ran into the high three digits. Then they pushed the KM# on back, renumbered, and the 20th century issues jumped up to around 2000 or higher.