Getting guarantees on ungraded cards

tombo

Before buying ungraded vintage cards with some value, say $50 or more do you ask for unaltered/authentic guarantees if the seller has a solid feedback rating?

RonBurgundy

I just asked for that today from a dealer at a show, and have no qualms about it.




Ron

tombo

RonBurgundy, did you purchase the card? What was the seller's response?

RonBurgundy

I did buy the card, and they offered to take it back if it was altered in any way. Most serious dealers I know will do that, and if they don't that's a sign something may be up.

FYI, the card is going to PSA on Monday!



Ron

basestealer

I wouldn't. I don't do contingent sales. Raw cards are raw cards. I sell them raw because I rarely do the grade and flip game, and because I like to collect them raw for my personal collection. If I assign a grade it's based on Beckett guidelines and I'm pretty accurate. The buyer must inspect the card and come to his or her own conclusion and buy it or not. Once the sale is made that's it. I would accept a return if the card were misrepresented, counterfeit, or alterred, but not if a third party grading service disagreed with a grade I assigned it (or a grade the buyer was hoping for). I suppose from a buyer's point of view it's great if you can find a dealer willing to make those kinds of guarantees.

nam812

I think the OP and RonBurgundy are talking about a guarantee of original/authentic, not a guarantee of a specific grade.

stown

<< <i>I think the OP and RonBurgundy are talking about a guarantee of original/authentic, not a guarantee of a specific grade. >>



They are.

You have the right to ask and if they don't, factor it into the price.

basestealer

Oh, well in that case it would be a guarantee by default, simply because anything less would be fraud. Although it might pose a problem if you know a signature is authentic (having obtained it yourself) only to have a TPG reject it.