ID Help .. Ancient Greece

coinnerd

Can anyone help with ID's for these?
First about 28 mm





The reverse lettering is ΛΗΜΚΤ something on the left and ΑΣΙΛЅ something on the right.


The second is about 9 mm (very small) has the bust of Hercules on the obverse M V M below.





If anyone knows era of mintage, locations, reference numbers, approx values etc. (Will it pay for both my kids college? :4humour

Sapyx

Your top one (the serrated one) is from the Seleucid Empire (Syria), in the name of King Demetrios (what you can read is DEMET (part of his name, "Demetriou" running sideways down the left of the non-portrait side, and ...SILEO... (part of the Grek word "basileos", king) down the other side. There were three kings by that name in Syria; a coin like this one is listed in the Sear catalogue of ancient Greek coins as number 7069, during the first reign of Demetrios II, 145-140 BC. CV for that coin £9 for "typical" grade specimens.

Your coin isn't quite a match for Sear 7069, though - it's supposed to show the goddess Demeter, while your coin shows a tripod.

We don't really know what to call this denomination; it's 15mm across and made of bronze, so it's listed simply as "AE15 (serrated edge)".

Can't find anything on your second one yet.

Sapyx

Found the second one - Pergamon, in what is now Turkey, small bronze (AE10), circa 300 BC, with Herakles (Hercules) on one side and Athena on the other. The abbreviation of the name of the city, PER, is visible under the bust of Athena (the side with the red pitting on it). Sear #3958, CV given at £10.

coinnerd

Thanks for the info. it's 15mm across and made of bronze, so it's listed simply as "AE15 The first coin is about 28mm though.

Sapyx

Whoa, that big? I didn't know they made serrated bronzes that large, so I wasn't looking.

I eventually found it in Sear listed as an AE25 under Demetrios I, who reigned 162-150 BC. Sear number 7026, CV £10. There's even a picture of it!

I also found an exact match for yours on Coinarchives, in better condition, which sold for 190 euros in 2005.