colonialcollector, as you know, many coins are recognizeable, can be easily pedigreed to certain sales, & then the current owner can be traced. i know that this sounds paranoid to some folks, but due to family considerations, i take every precaution possible to avoid this.
i've stated this before, but i would as soon drop off the forum completely then take any chances w/ family safety.
of course i own alot of generic coins, but w/out a doubt many of my better coins are too easily recognized that i would take chances. i know unquestionably that you yourself would recognize many of them w/out even needing a reference.
K S
edit -> in re-reading, this post is probaby not all to clear. the point is, i don't want people to know #1 that i own alot of valuable coins, #2 to find out where i live #3 learn i have kids & a family, then #4 take advantage of these facts, if you know what i mean. honestly, i sometimes fear for some of the folks who are too loose w/ personal data on anonymous forums like this.
<< <i>ok, so my 100% success rate is 1 for 1. my friend's succes rate was also 1 for 1... >>
Although I'm not a statistician, I would suggest that a sampling of two is too small a number to make any valid predictions regarding the likelihood of similar future results. >>
you are right, which is why i've tried to consistently preface my comments w/ "for me", or "in my experience"
That's about all Stacks or any other auction house would allow. Go ahead and try that trick again and see if what your new average would be. I do not expect you to be 2 for 2
If one were to suggest to the auction house ahead of time that you want to bid but also are considering returning the coin if it doesn't measure up they will give you a couple options:
1. Don't bid 2. Bid but with an opinion tendered by the house 3. Hire an auction rep 4. View it in person yourself 5. If 1,2,3,4 don't work for you......don't bid.
And should you win a lot under #2 and still want to return it, your future options with the auction house will be 1,3,4.
A sight-seen purchase is meant to cover purchases you are forced to keep. And when tendering a bid at auction it is assumed you own the coin. It is very unusual for the auction house to accept returns, esp. repeat players.
<< <i> like you said, 1 for 1 success rate proves nothing (except that i am satisfied), nor does a 2/10,000 failure rate.
K S >>
2/10,000 failure rate my arse. More likely the "coin story" was the MO for a less informed customer. A 30% comission on a very liquid H.R. Saint is a total screw job. Not to mention the original $11.5k offer based on their original "MS-61/2" assessment.
<< <i>ok, so my 100% success rate is 1 for 1. my friend's succes rate was also 1 for 1, & i believe another forum poster has stated his success rate. >>
I'm 1 for 1 in getting into MIT. So was a classmate at my high school. Must mean anyone can get in, huh? Oh, and two other classmates got rejected. I guess that last tidbit changes things, right? In fact, the school is full of people who were 1 for 1 in getting accepted. But, it doesn't include anything about the thousands who applied with us and went 0 for 1.
<< <i>Go ahead and try that trick again and see if what your new average would be. I do not expect you to be 2 for 2 >>
I tend to be rather forgiving with buyers on eBay if they want to back out of a deal... the first time. Just tonight I let a bidder off the hook for the coin they had the winning bid on, but don't want- now.
If it happens with the same bidder again, though... the results will most certainly be different.
<< <i>1 for 1? That's about all Stacks or any other auction house would allow. >>
so by your math, being zero for zero makes you more qualified to comment then someone who is 1 for 1. there's some clever math!
how about before you post something that stupid, you actually know what your posting about? until you've actually tried to return even a single coin to stacks, how in the he11 do you have a clue of whether or not they would actually do it?
typical forum "herd mentality" - make a baseless assumption about something you've never even tried to do, then go w/ it like it's fact etched in stone.
<< <i>I'm 1 for 1 in getting into MIT. So was a classmate at my high school. Must mean anyone can get in, huh? >>
where does MIT have a written "terms" policy that implies acceptance of everyone who applies? stack's has a written policy that implies acceptance of returns.
the difference is, you KNOW about those who got rejected. i can tell you right now that i don't personally know a single person that stack's has rejected a return from. does'nt mean i know everyone who's ever tried, but at least, i'm commenting on somethign i've actually DONE. everyone so far that has implied stack's won't take returns HAS NEVER EVEN TRIED TO RETURN ANYTHING!!!
see the difference? they danged well better teach this at mit!
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i've stated this before, but i would as soon drop off the forum completely then take any chances w/ family safety.
of course i own alot of generic coins, but w/out a doubt many of my better coins are too easily recognized that i would take chances. i know unquestionably that you yourself would recognize many of them w/out even needing a reference.
K S
edit -> in re-reading, this post is probaby not all to clear. the point is, i don't want people to know #1 that i own alot of valuable coins, #2 to find out where i live #3 learn i have kids & a family, then #4 take advantage of these facts, if you know what i mean. honestly, i sometimes fear for some of the folks who are too loose w/ personal data on anonymous forums like this.
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<< <i>ok, so my 100% success rate is 1 for 1. my friend's succes rate was also 1 for 1... >>
Although I'm not a statistician, I would suggest that a sampling of two is too small a number to make any valid predictions regarding the likelihood of similar future results. >>
you are right, which is why i've tried to consistently preface my comments w/ "for me", or "in my experience"
K S
That's about all Stacks or any other auction house would allow. Go ahead and try that trick again and see if what your new average would be. I do not expect you to be 2 for 2
If one were to suggest to the auction house ahead of time that you want to bid but also are considering returning the coin if it doesn't measure up they will give you a couple options:
1. Don't bid
2. Bid but with an opinion tendered by the house
3. Hire an auction rep
4. View it in person yourself
5. If 1,2,3,4 don't work for you......don't bid.
And should you win a lot under #2 and still want to return it, your future options with the auction house will be 1,3,4.
A sight-seen purchase is meant to cover purchases you are forced to keep. And when tendering a bid at auction it is assumed you own the coin. It is very unusual for the auction house to accept returns, esp. repeat players.
roadrunner
roadrunner
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Oh, and buy me! >>
The color on that coin is very interesting.
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like you said, 1 for 1 success rate proves nothing (except that i am satisfied), nor does a 2/10,000 failure rate.
K S >>
2/10,000 failure rate my arse. More likely the "coin story" was the MO for a less informed customer. A 30% comission on a very liquid H.R. Saint is a total screw job. Not to mention the original $11.5k offer based on their original "MS-61/2" assessment.
<< <i>ok, so my 100% success rate is 1 for 1. my friend's succes rate was also 1 for 1, & i believe another forum poster has stated his success rate. >>
I'm 1 for 1 in getting into MIT. So was a classmate at my high school. Must mean anyone can get in, huh? Oh, and two other classmates got rejected. I guess that last tidbit changes things, right? In fact, the school is full of people who were 1 for 1 in getting accepted. But, it doesn't include anything about the thousands who applied with us and went 0 for 1.
2) wher you received the coin it was sight seen.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
<< <i>Go ahead and try that trick again and see if what your new average would be. I do not expect you to be 2 for 2
I tend to be rather forgiving with buyers on eBay if they want to back out of a deal... the first time. Just tonight I let a bidder off the hook for the coin they had the winning bid on, but don't want- now.
If it happens with the same bidder again, though... the results will most certainly be different.
<< <i>1 for 1? That's about all Stacks or any other auction house would allow. >>
so by your math, being zero for zero makes you more qualified to comment then someone who is 1 for 1. there's some clever math!
how about before you post something that stupid, you actually know what your posting about? until you've actually tried to return even a single coin to stacks, how in the he11 do you have a clue of whether or not they would actually do it?
typical forum "herd mentality" - make a baseless assumption about something you've never even tried to do, then go w/ it like it's fact etched in stone.
K S
<< <i>I'm 1 for 1 in getting into MIT. So was a classmate at my high school. Must mean anyone can get in, huh? >>
where does MIT have a written "terms" policy that implies acceptance of everyone who applies? stack's has a written policy that implies acceptance of returns.
the difference is, you KNOW about those who got rejected. i can tell you right now that i don't personally know a single person that stack's has rejected a return from. does'nt mean i know everyone who's ever tried, but at least, i'm commenting on somethign i've actually DONE. everyone so far that has implied stack's won't take returns HAS NEVER EVEN TRIED TO RETURN ANYTHING!!!
see the difference? they danged well better teach this at mit!
K S
-David