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tombotombo Posts: 332
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Has anyone ever given 1 of the big submitters who happen to get all the 9's and 10's some cards to send in? If they are likely to get a 1 grade bump, it might be worth it for both parties to make a deal on the gain made from selling.

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  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    Could also lead to big problems.
  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭
    What would their incentive be for this? All the big-submitters are in the business of profit, and like leias cards said, this could lead to problems.
    A one grade bump for most modern cards I do not think would be worth the time this would take.
  • tombotombo Posts: 332
    Okay, look at it this way: One of the members posted a beautiful Reggie Jackson rookie that came back as a PSA 8. In looking at the scan, one could argue that this has a good shot at eventually ending up in a PSA 9 holder. The difference in sales value between the 2 is going to be over $4000. Why wouldn't you consider letting one of the large dealers that everyone complains about always getting the great grades, send it in and if it comes back a 9, you could share in the $4000 profit. Is it just a concern that they couldn't be trusted to tell you that was "your" card and not one of their own?
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  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭
    I think that the fact that they submit multiples of each card would make it difficult to distinguish between the two. Also doing that requires a bit of trust that a lot of people on the boards, and Ebay, only have with fellow collectors and not a big submitter.

    I am not saying that it is a bad idea, I think it is a great idea. I am sure that someone will do it sometime, but I would just rather resubmit.

    Plus, I do not agree that the big submitters get all high grades. After submitting probably over 100,000, if not half a million, cards you get a pretty good eye of what gets a 10 and what does not. If you watch 4sc and dsl they get 7's and 8's and they sell l them in huge lots, like 400-500 at a time.

    I think there was another thread recently on this, and I do not know who said it, but graders are human and bound to make mistakes. It is probably a very high pressure job, and it is like Newman said, "The mail, it just keeps on coming." I am sure that if I was assigned a 20,000 card order I would go cross eyed. image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even if my brother owned 4SC, I'm not sure I'd trust him with a slider PSA 9 Jackson RC!


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  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    Why does everyboady think the large submitters get better grades?? Sounds to me like people are jealous/need something to whine about.
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    Why does everyboady think the large submitters get better grades?? Sounds to me like people are jealous/need something to whine about.

    Very few people say it is intentional, most feel it is accidental.

    Say you are a grader. Most subs would be great you get to see and hold some cards you would never own, then along comes a big 1000 card submission, the first 50 or 60 cards you focus on, then after that you start remembering what the others graded and you are seeing boring cards over and over. Pretty soon you are going to get slack in what you are doing and assume that whoever submitted these know what they are talking about and just assume all the cards are close. Its simple human nature.
  • onlyanumberonlyanumber Posts: 2,433
    The countdown to POOF! begins...
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

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  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    Meant to add here is one of the big problems with that. I will use something common, but rare in a PSA10 slab. Say you give 3 1986 Topps Nolan Ryan to a big submitter to submit, he happens to send in 3 as well. How do you determine which 3 were the ones you submitted and which ones were the one the dealer submitted? This could be real bad on this card should one of yours come back a 10(which I don't think exists yet)
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭



    << <i>Even if my brother owned 4SC, I'm not sure I'd trust him with a slider PSA 9 Jackson RC! >>



    Personally, I find the 4SC organization to be honest. I for one, do trust them!

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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So you think I should send it to a dealer? I sold it to someone on the boards but if he doesnt I think I will send it in to one of the top guys. Or just try myself. 5k would help me out alot before I move.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    No, but I've sold cards to dealers that wouldn't cross when I sent them in, only to see them in PSA holders with equivalent grades at their tables months later.



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  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963
    OP: Why don't you just save up 100-200 cards of your own, submit them together, and see what happens? You might be pleasantly surprised.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ron. Are you saying they were in the same grade. Or what?
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