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A-Rod and Rickey, what will they grade?

digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
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These guys are going in with my next submission. What do you think they'll grade? I'll post results once they pop.



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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say the Rickey will grade an 8 at best.


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  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭
    probably 6 and 7.
    Roger-
  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭
    8 at best on both.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    probably 6 and 7.
    Roger-

    Henderson is sharper than a 6 for sure, but a PSA 7 is quite likely due to the soft top left corner, and the chipping on top.


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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    7 for Rickey
    8 for Arod
  • preownedautospreownedautos Posts: 86
    Rickey is a 5 all day long. It is off center and 3 corners (two top and bottom right) are fuzzy, not to mention that it has major chipping on the top edge about an inch from the right. You might get real lucky and get a 6. Arod looks like a seven - maybe an 8. Good luck!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is off center

    Centering on this card is within PSA 8 guidelines, actually. Keep in mind that the jumbo scan will distort the card's flaws. I agree that the top left corner is soft and the bottom right corner, too, to a lesser degree, but no way does this card grade out a PSA 5. More likely a PSA 7, if anything.


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  • themetalsignthemetalsign Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Rickey 5.5

    Arod 8
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    How do you measure centering on the 1980s? Would the edges be "edge to blue border" on either side for l/r; and top of yellow banner to top edge and bottom of blue border to bottom edge for t/b?


    I've submitted worse looking cards than this Henderson and pulled 8s, so we'll see, but I don't think it would get less than a 7.

    I figure the A-Rod is a strong 8.
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  • jlbsquaredjlbsquared Posts: 840
    Rickey probably a 7, a 6 with the wrong grader
    ARod 8


    my 7 for comparison





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  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    7 on both
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,143 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Rickey is a 5 all day long. It is off center and 3 corners (two top and bottom right) are fuzzy, not to mention that it has major chipping on the top edge about an inch from the right. You might get real lucky and get a 6. Arod looks like a seven - maybe an 8. Good luck! >>





    Unless the Henderson has a surface wrinkle, there is no way in the world that card is a 5. I would say it's a borderline 7/8, but leaning more towards 7. The A Rod is probably an 8.

    Shane

  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    3 folks say 7 on the A-Rod, why?
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  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭


    << <i>Rickey is a 5 all day long. It is off center and 3 corners (two top and bottom right) are fuzzy, not to mention that it has major chipping on the top edge about an inch from the right. You might get real lucky and get a 6. Arod looks like a seven - maybe an 8. Good luck! >>



    I still get a kick out of people not knowing what the centering standards are. That's about the third time this week. Measuring from the blue, it falls within PSA 9 centering. The corners, however, make it a 7.
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    3 folks say 7 on the A-Rod, why?

    The right edge of the card looks rough to me. There is the upper right corner, then right above A-Rod's knee there is another spot. There are 2 or 3 other spots along that edge that are possible flaws. It could be the scan.

    Then the third point over the P looks like it could have some foil missing.
  • tombotombo Posts: 332
    I would say 7 on the Henderson, although be prepared for a 6, and the Arod is probably an 8.
  • gotsparks09gotsparks09 Posts: 957


    << <i>I would say 7 on the Henderson, although be prepared for a 6, and the Arod is probably an 8. >>



    Same here...but count yourself on the lucky side if Rickey gets a 7.

    As was said before, a grader who's having a bad day may give it a 6.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭✭
    Rickey = 6/7

    Arod = 8
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  • YankeeefanYankeeefan Posts: 525
    7 for the Henderson
    8 for the ARod
  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    without reading any posts other than the first.

    Henderson has 3 fuzzy corners, some chipping on the edges and is centered 60/40. I think a 7 is very optimistic. Arod is an 8.
  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭
    By the way- What are we suppose to be assuming about the back of the arod? That is the most important thing about this card. IF there is visible chipping on the front, I can only assume the back is just as bad. There is no way to grade the arod without seeing the back. I have sent in over 50 arods to PSA and the general rule of thumb for this very condition sensitive issue is.. Whatever you think a fair grade on the card is- Knock one grade down.

    Also , just curious, what do YOU think they will/should grade?

  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    rickey - 7
    arod - 8


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



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  • 1960toppsguy1960toppsguy Posts: 1,127 ✭✭
    I'd save the submissions for cards worthy of gradingimage
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>I'd save the submissions for cards worthy of grading >>



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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>What are we suppose to be assuming about the back of the arod? >>



    I've included a scan of the back next to the scan of the front.

    My scanner seems to be adding a bit of a white glow to the card. The right border shows no white when viewed in-hand.
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  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    I still say a 7 on the A-rod, the back in some ways verifies what I am seeing on the front as a flaw.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>I still say a 7 on the A-rod, the back in some ways verifies what I am seeing on the front as a flaw. >>



    Hmm. By those grading standards, shouldn't this card be a PSA 7 as well?

    Slight white visible on two top corners and bottom edge.

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