Grades poped. Not happy

handyman

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 31859968 1911 SWEET CAPORAL DOC WHITE CHICAGO, PITCHING 2
2 31859969 1970 TOPPS 90 O.J. SIMPSON N/A 6
3 31859970 1972 TOPPS 200 ROGER STAUBACH N/A 6
4 31859971 1973 TOPPS 474 BABE RUTH ALL-TIME R.B.I. LEADER 8
5 31859972 1962 TOPPS 102 Y.A. TITTLE N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
6 31859973 1978 TOPPS 320 JOHN STALLWORTH N/A 9
7 31859974 1969 TOPPS 166 LEE ROY JORDAN N/A 7ST
8 31859975 1969 TOPPS FOUR IN ONE SCARPATI/ROCK CASEY/CONCANNON 5
9 31859976 1979 TOPPS 3 RUSHING LEADERS W.PAYTON/E.CAMPBELL Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
10 31859977 1979 TOPPS 480 WALTER PAYTON N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
11 31859978 1979 TOPPS 400 ROGER STAUBACH N/A 9
12 31859979 1987 TOPPS 45 DOUG FLUTIE N/A 9
13 31859980 1981 TOPPS 194 ART MONK N/A 8
14 31859981 1982 TOPPS 435 LAWRENCE TAYLOR N/A 9
15 31859982 1984 TOPPS 162 TERRY BRADSHAW N/A 9
16 31859983 1987 TOPPS 177 STEVE LARGENT N/A 10
17 31859984 1972 TOPPS 240 LARRY LITTLE N/A 8
18 31859985 1987 TOPPS 115 JERRY RICE N/A 9
19 31859986 1975 TOPPS MINI 320 PETE ROSE N/A 9OC
20 31859987 1976 TOPPS 457 COWBOYS CHECKLIST N/A 8
21 31859988 1989 HOOPS 138 DAVID ROBINSON N/A 9
22 31859989 1972 TOPPS 414 BOB MILLER N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
23 31859990 1978 TOPPS 78 DENNIS JOHNSON N/A 8
24 31859991 1989 FLEER 21 MICHAEL JORDAN N/A 9

First off. The 1962 YA Tittle looks like a 9 and is. I pulled it out of a pack and I had every card from the pack graded. They 1 straight 9 and 3 PSA 9 OC. The YA was graded with them and graded a PSA 8 the first time. I cracked it out and they say its trimmed. Put some more time into this guys!! Know what you are doing. And as for the other cards they said were trimmed, They are not. I pulled every single one of these cards out of wax packs. If anything they were miscut. NOT TRIMMED> Poor job..

handyman

Man this is the worst I have done. I paid the 13.00 5 day service. So it cost me about 330.00 to have them graded with SH. And now I have about 380.00 worth of cards. If I had sold them raw they would have sold for around 240.00.
I messed up bad.
BUT THEY WERE NOT TRIMMED! I would have been fine if they refunded my money for miscuts but man I took a beating on these.

brianwintersfan

<< <i>The YA was graded with them and graded a PSA 8 the first time. I cracked it out and they say its trimmed. >>



This is the thing that bothers me the most. Where is the consistency in the service they are offering?? Too be honest this does not instill a lot of confidence in those who get cards graded.

handyman

Its been very bad lately. I also just bought a PSA 8 1961 Mathews. Looked like a 9. Just got it back. Evidence of restoring.

PuertoRicanFogBank

Yep, know the feeling.

A large box of optical-grade plastic crap.

handyman

and the 1969 4 in 1 card. Graded a 5!! im going to post a pic of that one. It lookes like an 8.5 easy 8.
Complete junk.
Ill post pics of all the cards once I get them

carew4me

Threads of Joy,
Threads of Pain,
Whats the difference?
The labels contained.

msassin

Having legit cards not grading does suck....I also had a recent sub that popped the other night that had 2 cards (that I just cracked from a PSA holder) that came back evidence of trimming.

gemint

I have very low confidence in the graders. I'm seeing similar problems where cards cracked and resubmitted are now showing as EVID TRIM. Advice for the graders - just because a card isn't perfectly sized/cut doesn't automatically mean its trimmed. I have some high end 8s that I considered resubmitting but I'm concerned they too will get rejected due to "trimming". So they will stay in their current holders.

handyman

I think its becoming way to common for this to keep happening. I have had to do this with several cards. One of the other cards that came out of my 1962 Topps Football pack, Which came from BBCECHANGE a while ago. GAI graded. It had a Lenny Moore. The best looking 1962 card I have ever seen in my life!! GEM. 1st time graded. Ev trim. WTF are you just scared that one cant look this nice. 2nd time PSA 9. How it should be if not a 10. The % is going up and i dont like it. Its costing me way too much money.

RipublicaninMass

I think that timmed cards shoudl be slabbed as well with the correct designation, trimmed, recolored, restored, etc. or there shoudl be some kind of refund offered. Doesn't seem legal that they can just send you your cards back, not holdered, after you paid for them to be holdered. I know, I know, they are paid to be examined, so what is the .00005 cents of plastic cost??? SOOO Pretty please with sugar on top SLAB ALTERED CARDS

handyman

Off topic of what I was discussing. I was mad that they mis graded these cards. I know for a fact 100% that they were not trimmed and they said they were. They even once said at one time that the 1962 was gradable and gave it an 8. But this time they said it was trimmed. Which is it and what am I paying for???? A guess?

julen23

resubmit my man.

otherwise enjoy the card in its raw form. are you grading for selling purposes, if not, who cares what grade psa designates for anything you already know is nice?

Julen

handyman

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12561461 1960 TOPPS 326 BOB CLEMENTE N/A 7
2 12561462 1965 TOPPS 5 A.L. RBI LEADERS N/A Not Holdered, Miscut
3 12561463 1968 TOPPS 355 ERNIE BANKS N/A 7
4 12561464 1969 TOPPS 120 LARRY CSONKA N/A 8
5 12561465 1957 TOPPS 85 DICK LANE N/A 8
6 12561466 1951 TOPPS RED BACK 22 BOB FELLER N/A 6
7 12561467 1956 TOPPS 11 GEORGE BLANDA N/A 8
8 12561468 1962 TOPPS 40 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A Not Holdered, Re-Colored
9 12561469 1961 TOPPS 484 HANK AARON MVP 8
10 12561470 1964 TOPPS 175 BILLY WILLIAMS N/A Not Holdered, Miscut
11 12561471 1957 TOPPS 100 LEAGUE PRESIDENTS W.HARRIDGE/W.GILES 6
12 12561472 1952 BOWMAN 33 GIL McDOUGALD N/A 5
13 12561473 1959 TOPPS 116 JERRY KRAMER N/A 8

14 12561474 1962 TOPPS 102 Y.A. TITTLE N/A 8

15 12561475 1968 TOPPS 100 JOHN UNITAS N/A 8
16 12561476 1960 TOPPS 210 HARMON KILLEBREW N/A 8
17 12561477 1950 BOWMAN 9 TONY CANADEO N/A 5
18 12561478 1955 BOWMAN 22 ROY CAMPANELLA N/A 6
19 12561479 1958 TOPPS 103 JIM RINGO N/A 8
20 12561480 1979 TOPPS 390 EARL CAMPBELL N/A 9
20 12561481 1979 TOPPS 390 EARL CAMPBELL N/A 8
21 12561482 1961 NU-CARD SCOOPS 412 EDDIE MATHEWS BLSTS 300TH BIG LEAGUE HR 9
22 12561483 1972 TOPPS 435 REGGIE JACKSON N/A Not Holdered, Miscut

Now they did it right on this one. And the YA was graded.......
(this was graded 3 months ago) the one from the beg of this tread was posted today)

handyman

I just think if I pay 13.00 for a service. I should get that service. And not have to pay 2x the price. Bc they just didnt do there job.

pandrews

CDsNuts

+1 for poped

kadokakid

Maybe the first grader was wrong and the 2nd one got it right.

Apparently this hobby would be much better if we just all assigned our own grades.


Peace

handyman

The card came out of a pack that I bought from BBCEXCHANGE> I think thats all the proof I need to know its not trimmed.

RipublicaninMass

<< <i>+1 for poped >>



Should have been pooped

RonBurgundy

With regard to the YA card, this experience exposes the pitfalls of grading.



Ron

handyman

It does show the effort. And I dont see how these graders are the "experts of grading"

grote15

To be honest, I found it a little disconcerting when PSA said in the Q&A that most of the time they do not use magnification when grading cards, either. Why wouldn't the graders avail themselves to all possible tools in order to assign a correct and consistent grade. After all, most of us, scrutinize our cards before submitting, so why shouldn't the graders do the same?