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Card Saver I - Storing Your Cards?

I have been preserving many cards for PSA submission by putting them in Card Saver I holders (no penny sleeves) and storing them in M.J. Roop storage boxes. Today, I open the box to review the cards for submission and noticed that ALL the 2004 SAGE, HIT and other brands of Football rookies, mostly autographed cards, are flaking on the corners and edges. Of course now, none of these are worth submitting and I'm out alot of money and time. The cards were stored fairly tight in the boxes, just enough so they would not slide around.

Does anyone have any advice on storing cards for future submission or just for general preservation of the cards?

Thanks in advance,

-Danny
Collecting Dallas Cowboys Rookies and Team Sets 1960-1989

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Getting ready for submission: Penny Savers + the biggest Card Savers you can find.


    Longterm: Penny Savers + Top Loaders.



    I seldom comply with the Card Saver rule on submissions.

    I use PS+TL, and wrap the open-end of the stack
    with a paper-band that is taped to itself at the
    bottom. The stack is wrapped again, and rubber-banded
    horizontally. (I am not recommending this to others, just
    stating how I usually do it.)



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  • Storm,

    PSA will accept your PS+TL when you submit? I thought they were real strict about that.

    If yes, then I may start that. I've even noticed that older cards are getting squeezed w/Card Saver I. Damn, this sucks.

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    It would seem like you are taking a chance submitting cards to PSA in top loaders - besides the fact that they recommend against it, it is always a bit tougher to remove a card cleanly from a top loader than from a Card Saver.

    I don't think you should use Card Saver's for long term storage, but if you do - and especially if the cards are of the modern and shiny type - then I would make sure to put them in a penny sleeve first, then into the Card Saver.
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  • ok, thanks for the help

    I'll be busy tomorrow, transferring several hundred cards to penny sleeves!

    Collecting Dallas Cowboys Rookies and Team Sets 1960-1989
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always insert cards into penny sleeves before putting them into Card Savers to avoid any sticking and chipping off the gloss. In fact, PSA recommends that you insert the card into a soft sleeve before putting it into a Card Saver when you submit in the Submission Guidelines page.


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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "I've even noticed that older cards are getting squeezed w/Card Saver I."

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    That is why I usually do not use them.

    So far, no rejections for using TLs.

    The card goes in/out of the PS+TL very easily/cleanly.

    Again, I close the tops of the TLs with a paper-band.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I've always found that the most common way to damage a card is by trying to get it into a stubborn penny sleeve. Even if the corner of the card ever-so-slightly touches the edge of the penny sleeve, a little chip can occur.

    I've never had a problem with the big Card Savers and no penny sleeves, but don't push the cards down all the way. Get them right in the middle and the cards will be fine. The little Card Savers are garbage.

    Lee
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    I've got a little razor that I use to slice down the side of each penny sleeves before I try to insert the card. Cut down about 1/4th of an inch, and you can insert the card w/o any worry of nicking a corner.

    I ALWAYS use penny sleeves first. Long term storage in CS1s or any CS for that matter, seems like a bit of a gamble. The card is held in place by PRESSURE to the corners and edges. Some card stock is a little more fragile than others. For instance, I opened up a factory set of 1991 Topps a while back, and pulled a few easy PSA 10 candidates. I put them in the CS1s, and then put them in the "Submit some day" box. Well, after a few months, I checked them out again. Under magnification, I was able to tell that the surface of the card was starting to crack a little near the pressure areas. I guess the top layer was a little more brittle than the cardboard layer.

    Now, when it comes to putting glossy cards into CS's w/o penny sleeves, you're asking for trouble. It seems that it doesn't take too long for the glossy surface to glue itself to the CS. I learned that back in 1990 when I put my prized 1986 Donruss "The Rookies" Kevin Mitchell rookie naked in a "Card Protecto" (early Card Saver 2).
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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Dammit, you're never gonna be able to afford to replace that Mitchell rookie. The only way it comes down in value is if he turns out to be a complete maniac and does something crazy like decapitate his girlfriend's cat or something.

    Lee
  • Digi, I had the same results as you with CS1 in my submission box which has been waiting around for over a year now.

    ok, thanks guys... looks like this is going to cost me $$$.
    Collecting Dallas Cowboys Rookies and Team Sets 1960-1989
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>Dammit, you're never gonna be able to afford to replace that Mitchell rookie. The only way it comes down in value is if he turns out to be a complete maniac and does something crazy like decapitate his girlfriend's cat or something. >>



    Heh. Well, at the time the Mitchell RC was the 2nd most valuable card in my collection. My #1 was a 1987 Fleer Will Clark. image
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    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
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