When a seller ends early and you were high bidder...

jimq112

Do you ever bid on their items again?

I was high bidder on a 1964 topps venezuelan roger maris, low opening bid and I had a snipe set at $375. Ends tomorrow, I just checked on it and it's ended early, not available for sale.

I bid on other items this week from that seller, won't bid again. I hate that

Seller's ID is tigie


maris auction

storm888

I guess somebody made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

bobsbbcards

<< <i>Do you ever bid on their items again? >>


Never. Sorry that happened to you.

Sellers who do this are leaving tons of money on the table. If someone emails you asking you to end an auction early, it means they KNOW they won't be the high bidder at the end if the auction is allowed to run its course.

WinPitcher

Tigie is a great seller. If that happened Jim there is a reason. I'd give the guy a second chance.

Steve

five7teen

I just completed a transaction with that seller and had no problems at all - for what it's worth...

Mantlefan

He probably got an offer he couldn't refuse.

"I had a snipe set at $375"

BTW, a PSA 3 Venezuela Maris was sold for $202 on EBAY last week, so you should be happy you saved yourself a lot of cash!

1964 Ven Maris PSA 3

cardbender

Tigie has some fantastic cards and is also an excellent seller/buyer in my opinion. Another point of view could be that he ended the auction early and sold the card to a fellow collector for a 'fair' amount as opposed to holding out for top dollar.

On some deals getting the max. amount of coin for something isn't as important as maintaining a relationship with another friend, collector, or repeat customer. Sometimes goodwill matters more than the money.

Jim, sorry you missed out on the card.

Regards,

Rich

ebayaddict

That is disappointing for sure, if not annoying. What can you do???

Next time............

MorrellMan

Being high bidder certainly earns you the right of an explanation - I would email tigie, politely tell him you were high bidder and was very interested in winning this auction (without telling him what your snipe was set at) and could he possibly let you know why the auction was ended early.

edited to add: for what it's worth, I usually communicate with ebay folk as if I was writing a business letter. I would never think of being derisive or antagonisic to a client or a vendor and I always give them the benefit of the doubt.

jimq112

<< <i>Being high bidder certainly earns you the right of an explanation - I would email tigie, politely tell him you were high bidder and was very interested in winning this auction (without telling him what your snipe was set at) and could he possibly let you know why the auction was ended early.

edited to add: for what it's worth, I usually communicate with ebay folk as if I was writing a business letter. I would never think of being derisive or antagonisic to a client or a vendor and I always give them the benefit of the doubt. >>



I was nice and explained that I really wanted that card, and that I had set a snipe for $375. Response was "I'm sorry there was a problem".

I don't work as hard for my $ as some do but if I'm winning an auction I would at least like the opportunity to match a high offer. I really would have paid $375 even if it's too much. The book doesn't really matter on some cards, that card was one of them.

But I guess it's just cardboard and not worth the stress of worrying about.

Thanks to all for your opinions. You guys really know what you're talking about, I just wish the seller had given me a chance.

Griffins

it's unfortunate and disappointing. But I can vouch for Tigie as being one of the nicest guys in the hobby, and hope you'll consider giving him another chance. It's not about money with him, I suspect one of his many friends contacted him about the card, and knowing him he probably sent it to them gratis.

WinPitcher

yep i can attest to that. Tigie is a great seller and hobbyist.

Steve

JustAl

I might be adding fuel to a fire that's almost burnt out, but I believe that the seller's conduct was very unprofessional. Just as a bidder must accept the financial responsibility of placing a bid, a good seller should hold up his end of the deal and accept the final outcome of any item that he posts (unless there is an error in the listing). If the item doesn't sell, THEN pass it on to a friend/repeat customer. Otherwise, the seller's conduct is nothing more than cherry picking.

WinPitcher

I'll add a lil water to that fire, as a seller is free to do with his merchandice as he/she pleases. Until the auction is over they can, relist, end early or sell to the high bidder. Just as a bidder can bid early, bid late, or not bid at all.

Steve

WinPitcher

Welcome to the boards AL.

Steve

Leiascards

It depends, back when Ebay allowed sellers to end auctions at the last minute I had several items I bid on ended in the last few minutes due to no bids this was clear reserve fee advoidance.

If it was a few days early there could be several reasons why it was ended and not all are unreasonable. I would look at the sellers history and see if this is common practice.

The card could have been damaged or stolen, it could have been consigned and the consigner decided they wanted to keep it, as said the seller is free to do with it as they please as long as the auction is not over, and not much that can happen even after the auction ends as long as they refuse payment.

shagrotn77

The best advice I can give is, if a card pops up on eBay that you really, really want, contact the seller to see if he's willing to sell outright. You might also want to throw in there something about please don't sell the card without allowing me the chance to make an offer. At least this way you've made your interest known and thrown your hat into the ring should the buyer be willing to sell outright. Whether or not you like to do things this way, buyers do it all the time, so if you can't beat em...

Borst

There was a card recently that had a min bid of $99.99 and I offered the guy $115 for it (I know he paid $96 like 3 months ago when I forgot to bid on it) he countered $125 and I said I'd just wait and bid on it. With 13 hours left there were no bids so he extends the auction another 3 days (from 7 to 10 days) so that messes up my snipe but I caught it and fixed it, then with 13 hours left again he changes min bid to $129.99 and it gets no bids (my snipe was for under that) Right away he relists it with a BIN of $149.99 or best offer, so I offer $115 again and he replies he needs $130 for it, I didn't even respond because there is now another card (it's a PSA 10) up from a different seller with no reserve and only $0.99 min bid so I'll just win that one probably for less than my original offer to the first guy. Won't be bidding on the first guys stuff again cause he kept messing with his prices cause he thought he could squeeze a few more bucks from me but he just ended up costing himself more fees.

Leiascards

Ebay announced yeasterday that they have finally closed that loophole that allows sellers to extend auctions after it has been listed. I think it can still be done in the first 2 hours but not after that.

JustAl

Tough crowd!

puggy

That happened to me about a month ago.I was winning a football collection.I was the high bidder I was going to get it for 25.00 and he ended it. It had 30 min left and I went back to see if I won it said ended early.About two days later I seen it was up for bid again.He put a reserve on it started the bid at 50.It had the same pic and discription.I asked why he ended it.I was not going to make a enough money for it.I did not know what to say to something like that.I was just like what ever.It does suck when that happens.I hope it does not happen to anyone of you.

WinPitcher

Doug

What you should ahve said was something like, Really? I had a snipe set and i know another collector did as well. My snipe was set for 75.00.

I just sold a set of magazines for my opening bid. 49.99, I was hoping to get 150.00 With 10 minutes to go i was hoping for some late action. Never came. My best customer won the auction. Im happy for him. Next time I'll start them out at 99.99. My fault not his in that he was able to get a great deal.

Steve

jimq112

Great attitude, Steve. Too bad you're in the minority. Too many times there are shill bids or early endings when the money isn't there.

List some 1972 OPC baseball so I can bid on your cards!!

Jdurg

<< <i>Do you ever bid on their items again?

I was high bidder on a 1964 topps venezuelan roger maris, low opening bid and I had a snipe set at $375. Ends tomorrow, I just checked on it and it's ended early, not available for sale.

I bid on other items this week from that seller, won't bid again. I hate that

Seller's ID is tigie


maris auction >>



Are you sure you had placed a bid on that one? The auction history shows no bidders at all. If you had only set a snipe for the auction then I really can't feel any sympathy for you since technically speaking you never placed a bid. (Or does e-bay remove all bid history when an auction is ended early?).

Leiascards

Puggy, if the item had less than 12 hours to go a seller cannot end the item if there are already bids on it. He can cancel bids but cannot end it.

WinPitcher

I have seen auctions end early (within 2 minutes of ending) that had bids on them. seller canceled all bids then ended early. That was 2 years ago, no6t sure if Ebay changed that policy.

Steve

jimq112

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<< <i>Do you ever bid on their items again?

I was high bidder on a 1964 topps venezuelan roger maris, low opening bid and I had a snipe set at $375. Ends tomorrow, I just checked on it and it's ended early, not available for sale.

I bid on other items this week from that seller, won't bid again. I hate that

Seller's ID is tigie


maris auction >>



Are you sure you had placed a bid on that one? The auction history shows no bidders at all. If you had only set a snipe for the auction then I really can't feel any sympathy for you since technically speaking you never placed a bid. (Or does e-bay remove all bid history when an auction is ended early?). >>





bobnsue( 42Feedback score is 10 to 49) Cancelled: US $3.00
Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: May-29-07 02:21:59 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-01-07 17:18:31 PDT
thirdrex( 474Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: US $25.00
Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: May-29-07 04:17:37 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-01-07 17:18:30 PDT
71cardfan( 78Feedback score is 50 to 99) Cancelled: US $33.56
Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: May-27-07 14:16:43 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-01-07 17:18:30 PDT

I had already bid a token bid to mark the auction for myself, and my snipe was set for $375. It showed my bid as $25.50, the seller had no idea what I had actually bid until the auction was cancelled.

Jdurg

Okay. So it looks like E-Bay removes all traces of bids when an auction is ended early.

kingraider75

You can see the bids, just click on the 0 bids button

GOODLIEU

In the end the Seller of an item on EBAY is the sole owner of the item and like it or not can do as they please with their item. We as the Buyer's really do not have any claim to the item unless we win the auction. I buy a ton of cards on EBAY and to tell the truth don't let what happens with the auctions bother me at all because if theres one thing I know about this hobby is that sooner or later the item will come up again. About three years ago a 1948 Bowman BBall card in a PSA 8 was up for bid on EBAY at least three times The seller pulled it I guess because he was not getting the activity he expected. Im always on the watch for cards for my set so about a month later he listed it again and I ended up winning it at the price I originally had as high Bidder when Previously pulled. Dont ignore a good seller with a good Rep over this issue its not worth the aggravation over something out of your control.

Leiascards

have seen auctions end early (within 2 minutes of ending) that had bids on them. seller canceled all bids then ended early. That was 2 years ago, no6t sure if Ebay changed that policy.

They closed that loophole up about 2 years ago.

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