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1961 Topps and 1961 Fleer Football Sets

yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
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I have a complete set of 1961 1-221 Fleer Football Cards (SOLD 6/14/07). A friend was a checker at a super market in the 60's and bought these in packs and put them in an album right away and left them there. He only collected Football so this is one of 2 sets 1 full set 1 first run 1-132 Topps. I meant to ask for advice on whether to try this set on Trading forum or just go for it on ebay. Any advice is appreciated. I've been selling a big collection for the last 6 months and have a real appreciation for sports cards which I had forgotten about since I was a kid. Now I have put many hours into really understand the grading the nuances of knowing a clean card from a 4/5 and crease/trim etc. Just took one cynic to kick dirt in my face. These are not for sale here. image
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    1. Wrong forum. Post spam in the Buy Sell & Trade Forum.
    2. 9 pocket pages didn't exist when these cards were new.
    3. "album slots are a bit short so there are some with tiny loss of sharp edge" means they're probably 5s at best.
    4. "A friend was a checker at a super market in the 60's and bought these in packs and put them in an album right away and left them there." I've never heard a story like this; gosh how fortunate for him to know to put these in an album and save them for almost 50 years.
    5. I'm the only cynic on this board; everybody else will probably swamp you with offers.image
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
    Your Not a cynic just young.... Typical kids talking out of there (*). I will repost in the right forum. Thanks for inviting me to stay and chat.....Real friendly. Yater
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    Neat trick to edit your post and take out the part where you're looking to sell somebody else's cards that were for sure 7s, 8s and 9s and then show pictures of cards that are not for sale. Ain't cyberspace great? How you gonna change your posts now?
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • MantlefanMantlefan Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    Add me to the list of cynics.

    Wrong forum and wrong crowd for these....Mark and I are not neophytes. Back up the truck and ship 'em to EBAY.
    Frank

    Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
  • yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
    R.E. MorrellMan "Expert Collector" Yeah right! Make up you mind moron. You did say no spam yet you seem to full of it. I changed the listing to be in line and compliance with this forum. Get a life and shut up. Like I said thanks for welcoming me to the forum you complete idiot.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    "R.E. MorrellMan "Expert Collector" Yeah right!
    Make up you mind moron ... Your Not a cynic just young...."

    Well Morrellman isn't a moron and he certainly isn't young. image

    Also, of the 18 cards pictured,
    the Bart Starr card would get a 7 from PSA at best
    and none of the other cards would be worth wasting a grading fee on.

    Just my honest, expert opinion. By the way, welcome to the boards ...
    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Well Morrellman isn't a moron and he certainly isn't young. image

    Also, of the 18 cards pictured,
    the Bart Starr card would get a 7 from PSA at best
    and none of the other cards would be worth wasting a grading fee on.

    Just my honest, expert opinion. By the way, welcome to the boards ... >>



    Aw, comon Paul - I'm younger than you.image

    Here's Bob's latest trophy, in case he wants to edit it again:
    R.E. MorrellMan "Expert Collector" Yeah right! Make up you mind moron. You did say no spam yet you seem to full of it. I changed the listing to be in line and compliance with this forum. Get a life and shut up. Like I said thanks for welcoming me to the forum you complete idiot.

    Edited: Friday June 01, 2007 at 9:16 PM by yaterbob

    1. Spam is the term for drumming up sales interest in an item on a chat board forum when a more appropriate forum for that exists.
    2. Not so sure about the Starr card; looks like a little thing happening in the lower left corner.
    3. Wading into a chat board calling other members juvenile names is an excellent way to get off on the right foot. Welcome to the boards.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,599 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Morrell Man is a great guy and a pleasure to do bussiness with, he knows what he is talking about. Please dont emmbaress yourself anymore than you have. Move on and regroup!

  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭✭
    Here is a worthwhile reply for you. This forum is full of expert card collectors...who know cards, condition, history, and values of sports cards. Many have been on ebay for years and have been grading cards/buying them for longer. Two replies have been truthfull....pages to protect card were not available in 1961, so the story itself cannot be true. In my opinion.....99+% of all ungraded cards on ebay are overgraded to "yield" more money. Many come with a 'song and dance' to justify the condition of the cards for sale. We have all been there done that. advice: your cards all seem off center. This makes them in my opinion ungradable as you will get a negative qualifier. This drops the grade value 2 grades....say from a 8 to a 6. The value drops even more. Look at the corners with a 10X magnifier...if 2 or more corners are not sharp...again the cards are most likely ungradable. Get a sportscard book such a tuffstuff or beckett and look at values. Look at the key cards: rc's, hof'ers, and first and last cards. It might be better to pull them and sell the other "commons" as one lot. I would take the cards to a local sportscard shop and offer to buy his time for advice on individual cards if they are not for sale to him.
    Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets
    1948-76 Topps FB Sets
    FB & BB HOF Player sets
    1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice salesmanship. While you are at it, why dont you just advertise them as PSA 10's?
    I think you have missed your calling as a public relations man. Your short welcome here
    is noted by any buyers with any sense on this board. Good luck on e-bay with your
    mid grade cards.
    BTW, what does being a checker have to do with collecting cards?

    Where do these people come from?

    If you are interested I have 9 slot binder pages from the 60's along with a cell phone from
    1961. Oh yea, that land in Florida is still available too.
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    How big is that cell phone?? Just where is your property in Florida?image
  • StumpStump Posts: 927 ✭
    Wow whats with the name calling. Get a little pissed because someone caught you at your game. If you want to be welcomed on this board you had better come with honesty. I for one will not welcome someone who comes name calling. What was your advice to Mark "Get a life and shut up" Sounds like you should take your own advice
    Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com
  • yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
    I was immediately called a liar. I responded in kind rudely. Well get over it. I wasn't playing a game. I don't need the boards to get something over or make a sale. I was just feeling the set out and there you have it. I hadn't worked with footballl cards yet and especially a full set this clean over all. Sure I acted hastily entering the sale on the wrong board. But you guys sure live up to your billing. You can dish it out but well you know the rest. Yater
  • MantlefanMantlefan Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    Yes, we can dish it out. Too bad you can't take it.

    "I was immediately called a liar"

    I don't see that anywhere in Mark's post..
    Frank

    Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    YaterBob,

    Mark(Morrell Man) is one of the greatest guys in the hobby.

    You are making a big mistake. Apologize and move on.

    Jim
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jim, He won't cause he knows more about cards and condition than we do.
    He's the expert here and doesn't want to be taken by us sharks. Peddle you
    sh$t someplace else. If you want graded money for your cards, get them graded
    first, before you ask 9 money for a raw card.
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • StumpStump Posts: 927 ✭
    Yater

    Listen to Dav move on from this. Also if we were billed in a certain manner why did you even come here. Leave it be and quit taking jabs or its just going to get worse
    Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com
  • yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
    I apologize. I've moved on. Yater
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    apology accepted.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Showing some class. I look at you in a different light. Good luck on your sale. Joe
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
    Thanks.image Yater
  • StumpStump Posts: 927 ✭
    Yater

    Welcome to the boards
    Visit my site @ www.djjscards.com
  • MrcardsniperMrcardsniper Posts: 185 ✭✭
    Yater,

    You might want to send some of the cards in your picture in for grading..."GEM" grading would be the first place I would suggest. You could bet on getting some high grades from them... Bulk sale on EBAY would be another good way to get rid of these cards...1960"s football in this grade is very common. Welcome to the boards!!!!!!
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yater,

    You might want to send some of the cards in your picture in for grading..."GEM" grading would be the first place I would suggest. You could bet on getting some high grades from them... !!!!! >>



    Now is that nice?

    welcome to the boards, yaterbob
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    "I love the smell of GEM holders in the morning."

    Loves me some shiny!
  • yaterbobyaterbob Posts: 30
    Thanks for the welcome "Stump" I appreciate that & thanks MorrellMan also. The set did sell on eBay. Yaterbob

    GEM comments? I only use PSA currently. image
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the welcome "Stump" I appreciate that & thanks MorrellMan also. The set did sell on eBay. Yaterbob

    GEM comments? I only use PSA currently. image >>




    I've been looking for a set or starter set on ebay, must have missed yours. Auction #?

    By the way welcome to the boards image
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