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Manley/Kagin decision up

Story by David C. Harper and full decision on Manley/Kagin are now up on www.numismaticnews.net

Manley/Kagin story

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    What is with all of that fluffy nonsense in the opening paragraph of the decicion about how the board recognizes how important the two parties are to the ANA and numismatics, etc., etc.? Something like that should not be in the decision.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is with all of that fluffy nonsense in the opening paragraph of the decicion about how the board recognizes how important the two parties are to the ANA and numismatics, etc., etc.? Something like that should not be in the decision. >>

    I thought the same thing. It makes it sound as if us poor schmucks who are nobodies wouldn't get similar consideration, even if all of the facts were the same.

    Both Manley and Kagin, by the way, also puffed up their own importance to numismatics and the ANA with their statements in advance of the hearing. Makes it seem as if they were expecting their standing and donations to the ANA to influence the decision, as if they were looking for some quid pro quo.

    The finger-waggling "verdict" is about what I suspected -- the ANA has no desire to smear Kagin or piss off Manley. By admonishing Kagin but not taking further action, Kagin is a little chagrined but basically unbloodied, and Manley gets to hear the governors chastise Kagin and gets at least some satisfaction out of it.
  • coinmickeycoinmickey Posts: 767 ✭✭


    << <i>What is with all of that fluffy nonsense in the opening paragraph of the decicion about how the board recognizes how important the two parties are to the ANA and numismatics, etc., etc.? Something like that should not be in the decision. >>



    You really didn't need to read the rest of the decision after that. I wish all the cases I read in law school had an opening paragraph like that...image
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  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Bottom line. Ingot was not reported stolen, so Kagin could not have known it was stolen. End of case.

    Clearly there must be a personal vendetta behind this whole thing. The case was so senseless it could be nothing else. And shame on the ANA Board of Governors for letting this thing get out of hand. It doesn't matter how much Manley has donated in the past, this case stunk from day one. They should have told him to pound sand and saved the paper.

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