Manley/Kagin news

VANS

Story of what happened at hearing, by David C. Harper, is now on numismaticnews.net

Kagin and Manley

Mark

Thanks. The way this issue was reported, it looks to be a tad less certain for Kagin. The outcome will, of course, be interesting.

tradedollarnut

Word is no formal action, but an admonishment to do better due diligence.

ziggy29

<< <i>Word is no formal action, but an admonishment to do better due diligence. >>

Wouldn't surprise me. I figured "slap on the wrist" as the most likely outcome going into it.

Trime

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Longacre

<< <i>Word is no formal action, but an admonishment to do better due diligence. >>




If that is the case, then everyone wins-- a dealer with a good reputation does not go down, and an extremely large contributor to the ANA does not get pi$$ed off. I see shades of brilliance in this decision similar to Marbury v. Madison.

Steve

What I see is another example of how the internet and particularly this CU coin board can provide up to date information about important numismatic events. If the ANA can tap into this ability, it would surely help add to their membership. Steve

Steve

OK, the result is on the ANA web site under Board of Governors. Kagin is repremanded, but is not guilty. Report is very detailed and goes thru all the facts. Can someone please link. Thanks. Steve

ziggy29

<< <i>OK, the result is on the ANA web site under Board of Governors. Kagin is repremanded, but is not guilty. Report is very detailed and goes thru all the facts. Can someone please link. Thanks. Steve >>

The ANA's link seems to be busted at the moment.

Kagin gets a slap on the wrist but no formal action against him. Pretty much what I expected...

ziggy29

Looks like the link on the ANA home page is working. It's a PDF file.

It's 12 pages long, but it comes down to a couple of paragraphs in the "conclusions" section:

The Board also notes that it must reach its conclusions based upon the information known at the time of the events giving rise to the complaint and not based upon information learned with hindsight.

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Kagin could have, and likely should have, contacted Manley who he knew to be the expert in Blake bars. But in light of the facts presented in this case, the Board cannot find his failure to do so to be an ethical violation.

[Edit to add: Apparently in the hearing, Manley rescinded his request for Kagin's expulsion from the ANA, but only asked that he be removed from the Board and prohibited from serving on it in the future. This differs from his original complaint.]