What is the best raw set you have ever seen ?

tennesseebanker · May 27, 2007 12:13PM

I got to thinking while working on my 74 Topps baseball set tonight about who may have the best 74 raw set out there.

I was wondering what are some of the best condition raw sets any of you have ever seen ?

Estil · May 27, 2007 12:20PM

I would like to know too, cuz I want one myself.

tennesseebanker · May 27, 2007 12:37PM

Doesnt have to be a 74 set any set will do.

SidePocket · May 27, 2007 12:46PM

Scarlett Johannson

tennesseebanker · May 27, 2007 12:46PM

That is definitely a nice set !

SidePocket · May 27, 2007 12:50PM

Amended to say I've never seen 'em,

Treetop · May 27, 2007 12:56PM

ANY of the sets Scott Bradshaw had until last year when he broke them up and sold them. 1956 - 1972 Topps baseball

or

My 1972 Topps baseball set

tennesseebanker · May 27, 2007 1:09PM

I've heard about the Bradshaw raw sets. Has anyone had any experience seeing them or had a chance to buy one ?
I heard he wanted quite a bit for some of them. Anyone we know buy one from him ?

RonBurgundy · May 27, 2007 1:46PM

Scott Bradshaw, hands down. His raw stuff was/is incredible.

Ron

tennesseebanker · May 27, 2007 1:55PM

I wonder if he put the sets together from un-opened material or other sources ?

2dueces · May 28, 2007 12:23AM

I've only seen a video and pictures of them but hands down it's got to be the sets that Lionel Carter amassed. In person my 66 Topps football is a NM-Mint set and I've seen a 48 Bowman that a collector has had since he was a kid. I helped him put them in binders. Truely a beautiful set.

RonBurgundy · May 28, 2007 1:17AM

"I wonder if he put the sets together from un-opened material or other sources ? "

I think he put the sets together over the course of several years, upgrading to a nicer card whenever he could find it. His asking price for his raw '74 set last year at the National? $23,000.

Ron

handyman · May 28, 2007 1:43AM

23,000 for a raw Mint set. Has he ever sold any of his sets at his asking prices?

tennesseebanker · May 28, 2007 1:48AM

That's what I heard the price was as well, It does seem like an unbelievable price, but if the set was truly gradeable at all Psa 9 and 10 would it be justifiable ?
What have some of the top 74 sets in the registry gone for in the past ?

handyman · May 28, 2007 2:46AM

I still think the price would be way to high even if they did all grade 9's. Now you have to fork over another 4,000 to have them graded. So 27,000 for a 1974 set. Couldnt you just buy a case and a half of 1974 vending or 14 wax boxes and make a mint to gem mint set and then have several others. Just my thought

Griffins · May 28, 2007 3:02AM

Scott Bradshaw always had incredible raw sets.

The nicest sets I've seen were the '14 Cracker Jack set at the Cleveland National- SGC ended up grading it when Randy Stuckmeyer bought it for 600K, tons on 9's in there.

A few years ago I was at a long time collectors house and he brought out some binders to show me. Page after page of pristine caramel cards- all complete sets. E91, E92, E93, E94, on and on and on. He doesn't like grading companies and will never send a card in. They would easily be 1/1's, literally hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cards in a few small binders. And he said he's got more than a few friends with similar collections and similar views towards professional grading. There is still a lot of nice stuff out there.

tennesseebanker · May 28, 2007 3:02AM

If Mr. Bradshaw's price was close to a high grade complete registry set I would say that it would be justifiable.
But therein is the question, How much would a high-grade registry set sell for ?
I would trust Scott Bradshaws eye for quality as much or more than most of the graders at Psa, So if a high-grade reg set sold for around $25,000 dollars then it would be comparable.
I would also think that you could probably cut a deal with Joe or someone at Psa to get such a large high-quality set graded for under $5 a card, I agree you could put the set together from raw from busting several cases of un-opened product, but most people with the cash to blow $25,000 on a set dont want to spend the time to do it.

Rogermnj · May 28, 2007 3:47AM

About 15 years ago I went over a friends house in Staten Island NY and his father was a huge collector and had every set from 1952 to 1965 and he use to ask us if we could find any flaw in any cards. I remember seeing a tiny print dot on a card and he would remove it from his set and say ok i have to replace that one. Every card looked perfect, sickest thing i have ever seen.

Roger-

nam812 · May 28, 2007 11:49AM

Im in Staten Island Roger.......whereabouts was he?

cardbender · May 28, 2007 6:04PM

In Wisconsin about 9 years ago I looked thru the best '54 Wilson Weiners set in the world. When that old time collector decided to sell out, he went thru Mastro. His Ted Williams card ended up grading PSA 9, the one and only. Many others graded PSA 9 too with NQ's. The finest regional set I've ever seen hands down.

I once saw the finest '56 Topps Baseball set back in 1996, walk into a Milwaukee State Fair Park card show. Craig Roehrig bought it on the spot. He let me page through it. It was stunning to say the least. It literally looked like the cards were just opened from packs and put into 8 pocket pages. This was just before grading was taking off. I would imagine that many of the cards from that set ended up grading PSA 9 and PSA 10. I can't exactly recall what he paid for it, maybe high beckett or a little higher at that time. The set would easily be worth $100k or more today.

ajw · May 29, 2007 6:37AM

<< <i>...walk into a Milwaukee State Fair Park card show. >>

I used to love going to that show. There was a guy that had *tons* of oddball Will Clark stuff I'd never seen before. Each year I'd have to budget myself so I didn't blow all my cash at his table. Is the show still alive?

What is the best raw set you have ever seen ?

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