Name these fake? Now with better pics :)

66Tbird

I am assuming these are because actual weights are .65-71 oz. and you all said so
I just edited the post rather than create a new one. So if you could name them for me I'd be much grateful.

I just took a guess and on these. But would like to know what they are.



I found a mess of eight pocket sheets, and it just so happens I have that many different coins per set. So if you want a set I'll get it to you for 12

Roy, If the piece I sent you is not this exact one just let me know. even sent an odd ball to kill a stamp.

TwoKopeiki

Did they all come together? I ask because they all have the same "look" to them and I'm 99% sure the Yuan Shih-Kai Dollar (the fat guy one) is fake. You should be able to tell from weighing them.

Can you post a close-up of that one?

coinkat

Without seeing the coin, I would say they are very likely counterfeits. The yen does not have the look

66Tbird

as far as color it varies from dove grey to a real kind of typical silver look..

If the 416 is weight then its all wrong.

66Tbird

And yes, they came together. all 224 of them.

But, they were a gift from an old oriental guy. Cleaning out the closet I guess

satootoko

The significant underweight, the width of the characters, the shape of the dragon's tail and where the tip lies on the spines, are simply the most obvious of the many, many discrepancies on the (probably) Chinese-made Meiji 45 (1912) fake yen!

It's enough different from any other counterfeit in my black box to be worth five bucks (plus postage) to me.

The "416" is grains, which equates to 26.96g, .867 troy oz. or .951 av. oz.

(The "900" is .900 fine).

ozzysdad47

tbirde66, It's good to know your still around i was getting worried about you. I've got quite a few identical to the one's you have pic's posted. I asked the same question last week about one of them, I paid 8 buck's for it at a yard sale. I'm not sure what's real and what's not with these, I figure that i could probably slap a few on eBay and just see what they will bring, Hey, anything over what you have in them is profit. If nothing else, They are certainly neat in design.............Beside's people will buy anything on eBay.......lol....

BTW, I finally got the bezel's for the Mexican Gold peso's, Mom got the 10 peso for mother's day, and I kept the 5 peso for myself, and My oldest daughter got the 2 1/2 peso's, and my youngest daughter got to Dos Peso. Missed you man, Take Care,

ozzysdad47/ Brad....

Aethelred

Good to see you again tbird!

Based on the pic above I would say fake. They have the same look as the many fakes I have seen people bring into the shop that they purchased on eBay from sellers in China.

It is really amazing how many of these are now out there!

lordmarcovan

I agree- phoney baloney.

66Tbird

Oh, I'm still here, just hang'n and flip'n over on the light side. I did take sato up on his offer. I think I'll organize these and see how many different types there are. Lots of provinces from what I saw.

Like I was telling Rob a while back. I have a lot of dark side stuff but no idea where to start. My grandparents and great grandparents travel the world many times(1930-70). They alway kept the money from those trips in a punch bowl on living room table. When it got full it went to me. It's just to much to wrap my head around, wIth square ones, aluminum ones, holed ones, square holed ones, big small tiny thick thin,,, ahhhhhhhh Back in the closet it goes.

Blackhawk

Hi John

sumnom

I have seen these for sale in Korea in sheets. There are zillions of them.

Automan

I was in Beijing last summer and saw litterally thousands of these. They sell them everywhere. Not just copies of old Chinese dollars, either. I saw fake Morgans (really ugly!), and lots of different world crowns (also really ugly), but also loads of smaller "silver" coins. Not to mention the vast quantities of fake Chinese cash coins of all sizes. The ancient Chinese ones and the Chinese dollars seemed to be the best made, though.

Anyhow, I bought 50 or so "dollars" as a present for my brother. After some haggling, I paid something like the equivalent of US$ 0.15-0.20 each.

If this is what the Chinese can do for 15 cents, imagine what they could do for a few dollars...

Automan