Just want to share- 1569 Papal States Bronze
JRocco
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Good morning guys,
Just wanted to share this beauty that is now in my Vatican collection
A 1569 Italy Papal States Vatican Pope Pius V
Mazio 105
Spink 636
The obverse shows Pope Pius V wearing cope
The reverse shows the Allegorical figure of Peace, cornucopia in her left hand pointing with a seceptre (or torch) in her right hand to treasures.
Look at the character in this bronze piece.
I love this stuff.
Just wanted to share this beauty that is now in my Vatican collection
A 1569 Italy Papal States Vatican Pope Pius V
Mazio 105
Spink 636
The obverse shows Pope Pius V wearing cope
The reverse shows the Allegorical figure of Peace, cornucopia in her left hand pointing with a seceptre (or torch) in her right hand to treasures.
Look at the character in this bronze piece.
I love this stuff.
Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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These are nice coins with the high relief and great designs from talented engravers. I have been looking at some of the Vatican gold issues. Interesting die crack!
edit - the doubling of the letters is also impressive. Probably repunched, or could it be strike doubling?. I recently spoke to die engraver Greg Franck-Weiby, much of the doubling of the hand-punched letters on his dies is because it often takes two or more hammer strikes to get a good impression in the die.
These pieces are amazing and a treasure to collect.
Here is a 1625 Pope Gregory X111 copper to compare. Slightly larger at 32 mm compared to 30 mm for the PiusV.
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question, how did you figure that the Pius V is 1569- I don't see a date.
Also, I especially like the Jubilee/Holy year series and am trying to put together a set from the first Jubilee in 1300. Of course, the earlier pieces are not contemporary, but do at least fill in the set.
The first year I have covered in my set is 1350. Its not in Mazio of course, but is Lincoln (or Spink) 288. The new CNORP cat refers to this as a "restitution" but its really just a hole filler for the pope who did not strike such medals. Interestingly, it is by the great baroque artist Ferdinand de Saint Urban, well known on coins of this period and was orginally produced in the early 1700s. He did a whole series of these for the earlier popes. Not bad for a "hole filler." BTW, its an AE 39
The second piece is for the HY of 1650 and is a silver, 32mm. The reverse shows the pope closing/bricking in the holy door at the end of the jubilee year. Nice silver peice, but probably a restrike as are virtually all of the medals before the mid 1700s. Again, tho, it'll do.
These both feature stock reverse types which were reused during other Jubilees with, or without, change. The great thing about Vatican is that you can collect a lot of different ways and see the same basic design reused or reworked again and again.
...edited to add a few pix
The 1559 is categorized as such is the best I can answer.
Interestingly enough, the PiusV is the plate coin shown HERE
While I am on a roll, here is Pope Pius IV
You didn't give a reference so I rummaged around a little. I didn't see a date in Lincoln and this piece does not appear in Roma Resurgens so I pulled out vol III of CNORP and it looks like the reverse was indeed first cut in 1569 or 1570 and is cat # 606. The original medals were mated with a LEFT obverse bust, and type 607 (your piece) is mated with the RIGHT facing bust and were first cut during the 18th and 19th century which is no doubt the origin of the Mazio pieces. 606 is rated as RRR while 607 is given an R, which is the next level up from C.
My Italian is poor, but it looks to me that the original order was for 30 pieces in gold with the distribution at the Feast of SS Peter & Paul on 29 June 1570 (perhaps in other medals as well). Again my take is that it somehow commemorates the "victory" over the Hugenots in France, but I don't quite get the details.
Interestingly CNORP provides a pic of the original reverse die which is in the Museo della Zecca di Roma.
Thanks for sharing.
<< <i> Again my take is that it somehow commemorates the "victory" over the Hugenots in France, but I don't quite get the details. >>
Indeed, Modesti seems to point to it more specifically commemorating the victory at the battle of Moncontour of October 3, 1569, a definitive battle where the papal troops distinguished themselves (Pius V had send 4000 soldiers and 500 knights to fight againt the Huguenots).
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