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Any interest in doing a 1981 Football Case Break? *Confirmed Pricing*

BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭
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BBCE has a case of 1981 Topps football for $8,000 minus a 10% discount. There are 20 boxes in a case.

Steve sent me an email and he is willing to ship direct, however he does not want to collect the payments. He is also willing to give us a 10% discount making the case price $7,200.

He also quoted the following shipping rates:

Less than 36 packs will be $8.00 shipping
1 Box will be $10.00 shipping plus $3.00 for each additional box.


Box 36 packs - $381.36 with shipping and Paypal (4-Lots) 360+10 shipping+11.36 pp
3/4 box 27 packs - $286.62 with shipping and Paypal (3-Lots) 270+8 shipping+8.62 pp
1/2 box 18 packs - $193.93 with shipping and Paypal (2-Lots) 180+8 shipping+5.93 pp
1/4 box 9 packs - $101.24 with shipping and Paypal (1-Lot) 90+8 shipping 3.24 pp


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According to Steves description this is a Non-X out case. In case anyone is not familiar this set, this is the one to look for:

Card# Player PSA 8 PSA 9 PSA 10
216 Joe Montana (R) (HOF) 110 260 3350 image

1 lot equals 9 packs and if my math is correct we would have to sell 80 lots:

20 boxes x 36 packs = 720 packs
720/9 packs = 80 lots


1. Bunker
2. Bunker
3. FavreFan1971
4. Ping4u43
5. Ping4u43
6. Ping4u43
7. Ping4u43
8. andywtn
9. Kep13
10. Kep13
11. Kep13
12. Kep13
13. djspann
14. djspann
15. djspann
16. djspann
17. OSClabs
18. OSClabs
19. OSClabs
20. OSClabs
21. digdug
22. digdug
23. digdug
24. digdug


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Comments

  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    I would love to do it. Right now I can only afford the 9 packs.
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    Count me in for 1 box for sure, outside chance of 2 boxes.

    Wonder if this case was originally sent to Cramer Sports, if it was Mike Cramer of Pacific Trading Cards?
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    I just bought 300 mint commons for the set so I would be in the market for commons/stars to finish the set after the bust if anyone is interested in selling. I might do 1 lot as well. Let me know about payment.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    I have dibs on the Packer Cards.
  • andywtnandywtn Posts: 73 ✭
    I would be intrested in one lot.
  • DaddyRichDaddyRich Posts: 241 ✭✭
    Am I reading incorrectly or did you write that there were 3350 in PSA 10?
    Just glad to be here with everyone.
  • BorstBorst Posts: 92 ✭


    << <i>Am I reading incorrectly or did you write that there were 3350 in PSA 10? >>



    $3350 is the SMR on a PSA 10
  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    what are the odds of getting a PSA 10 Montana image

    In one box, how many Montanas would you conceivably get? 2? just calculating....
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭


    << <i>Am I reading incorrectly or did you write that there were 3350 in PSA 10? >>



    I checked ebay and the 3 most recent sales:

    $2,692.00 April 27, 2007
    $2,862.00 April 12, 2007
    $3,161.00 March 23, 2007

    Memory Lane was $3,435.00 on December 14, 2006

    I think that I could live with those numbers image
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    My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)

    JDRF Donation
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>what are the odds of getting a PSA 10 Montana image

    In one box, how many Montanas would you conceivably get? 2? just calculating.... >>



    I have opened a lot of 81 FB boxes over the last few years. Some boxes had 2 Montanas, some had none. Usually you wind up with one, but I have gotten none more than I would have expected.

    Unfortunately, no PSA 10's on Joe M for me yet, but I have added a few 9's to the pop report. Nice set with a lot of HOF's and minor stars.
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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im not trying to be a wet blanket, and a PSA 10 is surely possible, but you'd need a PSA 8 and a PSA 9 just to get even on a box. Obviously that's only taking Montana into account. There's also Payton, Bradshaw, Winslow, Monk, Clark, Hampton, etc....
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭✭
    If you are not looking at this as an expensive scratch-off ticket then dont do it.

    The chances of anyone "making money" are slim to none.

    Hopefully thats not the intent.

    That being said, if you get off on opening old wax then this case looks trustworthy and should be fun.




    Loves me some shiny!
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    Agree with Carew, opening old wax is like playing the lottery. No gurantees. If you are tyring to finish or start the set then it would be fun as well.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • PasadenaMudSlidePasadenaMudSlide Posts: 732
    I am in ONLY if GARY is running this rip!

    Sorry, can't do it right now, guys . . . sounds fun.

    Post lost of crisp pics!
  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gary PMed me and said he could handle breaking the case mailing out "the packs".

    #LetsGoSwitzerlandThe Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read. The biggest obstacle to progress is a habit of “buying what we want and begging for what we need.”You get the Freedom you fight for and get the Oppression you deserve.
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    Gary: PMed and said he would collect the money for the 81 FB Case Break and then send it along to Steve.image
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭


    << <i>Agree with Carew, opening old wax is like playing the lottery. No gurantees. If you are tyring to finish or start the set then it would be fun as well. >>



    Exactly. I enjoy the group rips and think it is cool that everyone post scans of the cards and rooting for each other. I could have just as easily called BBCE and ordered packs from him today and would have probably had them by monday.

    I have been involved with four group rips/breaks and despite some issues I still had a blast and thought we could try it again.
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    My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)

    JDRF Donation
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick, are the paypal fees what it's going to cost you to accept everyone's payment? If so, couldn't a guy wanting a full box just send you a money order and save $15?
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭


    << <i>Rick, are the paypal fees what it's going to cost you to accept everyone's payment? If so, couldn't a guy wanting a full box just send you a money order and save $15? >>



    Nick I guess that could be an option. I was actually going to pm some other board members to see if they would be interested in collecting the money so I would leave that up to them.

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    My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)

    JDRF Donation
  • djspanndjspann Posts: 541 ✭
    I'm in for 1 box.


    Doug
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    TTT
  • djspanndjspann Posts: 541 ✭
    If anyone is interested, here are the paypal fees that I calculate, assuming the one receiving payments does less than $3000 per month in paypal sales. This gives the highest fees, and if someone does a lot of sales, the numbers could decrease a little bit.

    Also, this is assuming paying by credit card or paypal balance. If people choose to use eCheck, it has a maximum fee of $5.

    Anyway, here are the numbers, unless I made a mistake:

    Box 36 packs - $381.36 with shipping and Paypal (4-Lots) 360+10 shipping+11.36 pp
    3/4 box 27 packs - $286.62 with shipping and Paypal (3-Lots) 270+8 shipping+8.62 pp
    1/2 box 18 packs - $193.93 with shipping and Paypal (2-Lots) 180+8 shipping+5.93 pp
    1/4 box 9 packs - $101.24 with shipping and Paypal (1-Lot) 90+8 shipping 3.24 pp


    So, eCheck seems like a good deal in most cases, if anyone wants to use that.


    Doug
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭
    Thanks Doug image
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    My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)

    JDRF Donation
  • djspanndjspann Posts: 541 ✭
    Sure!

    I forgot one thing -- if anyone buys multiple boxes, each additional box would be $373.85 with paypal fees, assuming the entire payment is made at once and it is not an eCheck. ($360 for the box, $3 for shipping, and $10.85 for PP)

    With eCheck, each additional box is $363 -- $360 for the box, and $3 for shipping, since the paypal fees max out on the first box.


    Doug
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    Monday AM Bump
  • OSClabsOSClabs Posts: 358
    I'm interesed in a box if still available. Email: dpugh@osclabs.com


    Thanks,
    Danny
    Collecting Dallas Cowboys Rookies and Team Sets 1960-1989
  • digdugdigdug Posts: 216 ✭✭
    I'll take 4 lots or 1 full box if its being shipped straight from Steve.
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    What is the sold box count on this??
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe that OSClabs and digdug make it a total of 24 lots so far.
  • ping4u43ping4u43 Posts: 908
    I'm TTT again in hopes of getting more people on board for this.
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭
    Its been close to a week now and we are not a 1/3 of the way there....it is not looking to good
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    My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)

    JDRF Donation
  • SullyknowsSullyknows Posts: 104 ✭✭

    How fast would this sell out 10 years later?

  • tbonewillytbonewilly Posts: 424 ✭✭✭

    Hehe!..I about Schlitz'ed my pants when I seen it! :D ...I think at those prices, about .001 seconds! someone would grab the whole case!

    Ken - Volunteered to work in Florida Keys, now freezing in Ohio
    Work in progress - Unopened Racks/Cello/Wax with star power for Baseball, Football and Basketball
    Collecting unopened 80's boxes and graded packs
    I may be hoarding too much 80's junk wax but I like it!
  • GilbeyGilbey Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    I will take a box (4 lots)

  • OddRodzOddRodz Posts: 645 ✭✭✭

    Are you Gilbey Clarke who took Izzy's place ? That would be cool.

  • estangestang Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2017 7:10AM

    ...

    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • GilbeyGilbey Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    Never hung out with Axel and Slash

  • 49ersGuy49ersGuy Posts: 382 ✭✭

    I'm going to have to hold off. I will wait until the price goes down to$19.99 a box.

  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭

    Up really early today (never took the dogs out last nite and you guessed it--the sweet smell of crap woke me up at 5!!)

    and I almost crapped myself when I saw this---till I looked at the dates of the posts. I was like--holy crap Steve must have gotten whacked last night.....

    that's a lot of crap for 1 early post

  • ugaskidawgugaskidawg Posts: 882 ✭✭✭

    @Bharris said:
    I will do a box if one comes available on this group buy.

    All you got to do is just load up in the Delorean and use that flux capacitor to get you back to 2007.

  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭

    I was wondering why this seemed so cheap...and then why it wasn't a go...and then I realized the date.

    Interesting though...let's compare 2 prices here:

    2007 Box price: $360
    2017 BBCE Box price: $1395
    +387.5%

    2007 Montana PSA 10 price: $2905 (Average of 3 prices quoted in this thread)
    2017 Montana PSA 10 price: $12000 (last sale on eBay by PWCC)
    +413%

    That is quite close for what is presumed to be 2 different collectibles (although the same field, of course).

    Dennis

    VOC Numismatics
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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dennis, pretty cool comparison.

    I just wish I had stocked up on PSA 10 Montana rookies.

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