Three things you could care less about.
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In order to keep this thread from getting banished to cyber limbo by the ominpresent mods I'll restrict my initial contribution to sports events (but feel free to stray if you must). What are three things in sports that you don't care about at all?
Here's three of mine.
1) Red Sox-Yankees rivalry. How was this a rivalry before 2004? Doesn't one of the relevant teams have to win at least occasionally for it to be a rivalry? I wouldn't say this is overrated, because it's clear that many baseball fans do care deeply about these two teams, but I've never understood what the big deal is.
2) The NFL draft. Whenever this goes off I discover how little I actually know about football. I've usually heard of about 60% of the first 10 picks, and after that I've heard of nobody unless they are either a) a quarterback, or b) a player from either Michigan or Michigan State. I usually end up tuning in for the first two or three picks, just to see whose career the mighty Lions have ruined, then check back in 5 hrs. later to hear Mel Kiper gushing over a random cornerback from North Carolina State.
3) Steroids in football. There is something admittedly creepy about steroids in baseball, but I've always figured that shooting liters of steroids into your buttocks is just one of the occupational hazards that comes with playing pro football. And I can't get behind the idea that someone could run like Michael Johnson and do 30 reps on the bench at 225 just by living right, so the issue of whether or not everyone who suits up on Sundays is ripped to the tits on chemical enhancements seems like it has already answered itself.
Here's three of mine.
1) Red Sox-Yankees rivalry. How was this a rivalry before 2004? Doesn't one of the relevant teams have to win at least occasionally for it to be a rivalry? I wouldn't say this is overrated, because it's clear that many baseball fans do care deeply about these two teams, but I've never understood what the big deal is.
2) The NFL draft. Whenever this goes off I discover how little I actually know about football. I've usually heard of about 60% of the first 10 picks, and after that I've heard of nobody unless they are either a) a quarterback, or b) a player from either Michigan or Michigan State. I usually end up tuning in for the first two or three picks, just to see whose career the mighty Lions have ruined, then check back in 5 hrs. later to hear Mel Kiper gushing over a random cornerback from North Carolina State.
3) Steroids in football. There is something admittedly creepy about steroids in baseball, but I've always figured that shooting liters of steroids into your buttocks is just one of the occupational hazards that comes with playing pro football. And I can't get behind the idea that someone could run like Michael Johnson and do 30 reps on the bench at 225 just by living right, so the issue of whether or not everyone who suits up on Sundays is ripped to the tits on chemical enhancements seems like it has already answered itself.
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I'll give you a counter example, that conforms to your parameters: the Cubs-Cardinals "rivalry." Granted, there have been a few years when both teams have been good, but they are few and far between. I know they were once the two westernmost teams in the NL, but that time passed long ago. That one is as relevant to non-fans of the two teams as any other once great but now irrelevant rivalry is.
For example: anybody under the age of 30 will look at you as if you've snapped if you try to convince them that the Yankees and Royals once had a bitter, intense rivalry that was played out at the highest levels of the American League.
<< <i> For example: anybody under the age of 30 will look at you as if you've snapped if you try to convince them that the Yankees and Royals once had a bitter, intense rivalry that was played out at the highest levels of the American League. >>
That is a VERY good point. From late 1979 right throught the 1980's the Yankees and Royals had a FIERCE rivalry. I remember every one of those years. Also, I talked about the Sox/Yankee rivalry in another thread. It rises and falls over time, when I was a kid the rivalry was strong .... VERY STRONG. Back then even the players hated each other. That is not the case anymore but still, since the late 90's the rivalry is at a peak yet again. For those who are truly Sox and Yankee fans trust me, IT IS A BIG DEAL.
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3. University of Michigan
This would be like saying Duke - UNC basketball or USC - UCLA is overrated. Not to everyone involved. And it seems like a LOT of people have an interest in Sox - Yanks.
(With that said, I will also note that I have been very angry with my Red Sox for complaining about how the Yankees used to just outbid every team for players, the Sox played the small-market card, and then have done exactly what the Yankees did. It's turned me against the current ownership, but I am still a diehard for the team and players.)
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3) Steroids in football. There is something admittedly creepy about steroids in baseball, but I've always figured that shooting liters of steroids into your buttocks is just one of the occupational hazards that comes with playing pro football. And I can't get behind the idea that someone could run like Michael Johnson and do 30 reps on the bench at 225 just by living right, so the issue of whether or not everyone who suits up on Sundays is ripped to the tits on chemical enhancements seems like it has already answered itself. >>
Wow do you sound ignorant with this comment.
Have you ever worked out in your life?
Now I am not saying I am a huge guy or in shape like I used to but when I was running track track in college I weighed a strong 175ish pounds. I was/am 5'11" and I could put up 215 8 times. I have a small body frame and worked out four to five times a week. If I was not a 400 meter runner I could have bulked up more if I wanted too. What I am getting at is putting 225 pounds 30 times can be done with dedication and NO DRUGS easily for most sprinters and running backs. Sprinters are usually taller 6'2" and about 190 pounds. Runningbacks have similar frame sizes. You have to remember, these guys like Michael Johnson live and breathe their sport. Their job is to go to the gym, every day. Your job is to "Just Figure" this and "Just Figure" that with no common sense.
Now don't get me wrong, there are 'roids in nearly every sport but full contact chess. I just can't stand fools like yourself who believe everyone has to cheat like Barry Bonds and Shawne Merriman to get ahead in the game.
Just figure.
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Jason
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<< <i>Now don't get me wrong, there are 'roids in nearly every sport but full contact chess. I just can't stand fools like yourself who believe everyone has to cheat like Barry Bonds and Shawne Merriman to get ahead in the game. >>
After all your remarks about training and getting bigger and stronger naturally, I find it amusing that you say Bonds cheated (Used roids) when there has been no proof at all. Please don't single out one player when we all agree that supplements of all types are and have been used by virtually all professional athletes.
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2. NBA Playoffs. Do we really need 6 weeks of this?
3. Politics. I used to care and try to keep up. However, since January 20, 2001 and the entire would suddenly hated the USA, the Press has done its share to try and convince the rest of us that we should also hate the USA, I have completely lost interest. Maybe after the next election and we are finally rid of the Clinton's and the Bush's we can go back to having the great country that I remember when I was surving in the military.
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3- Hockey Cards
Jason >>
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<< <i>Now don't get me wrong, there are 'roids in nearly every sport but full contact chess. I just can't stand fools like yourself who believe everyone has to cheat like Barry Bonds and Shawne Merriman to get ahead in the game. >>
After all your remarks about training and getting bigger and stronger naturally, I find it amusing that you say Bonds cheated (Used roids) when there has been no proof at all. Please don't single out one player when we all agree that supplements of all types are and have been used by virtually all professional athletes. >>
Note, I said cheated, not roids in general. There were drugs found in his locker during the offseason. Speed if I am not mistaken. So, is that cheating? Yup, it is!
<< <i>1. The length of the NBA playoffs
2. The fact that the NHL is still in existence
3. University of Michigan >>
1. The NBA playoffs are great. First, and possibly, second round series should be best of five, though.
2. There are probably a lot more hockey fans than you realize. Just because it's not a 'made for TV' sport, don't knock it.
I second that. Everyone forgets that steroids were not officially banned by baseball until after McGwire retired. And, since they've banned steroids and instituted testing (or before), there is no evidence that Bonds has ever tested positive. And, since they have banned steroids and instituted testing, more pitchers have tested positive than position players. Maybe we should give everyone who hit homers before the steroid era asterisks because they didn't have to face "juiced" pitchers. And, what is Bonds doing this year as a "clean" 42 year old: .329/.526/.785 with 11 HR in 30 games. Those are videogame numbers, but they are exactly in line with what he did when he was supposedly "juiced." Steroids, like amphetamines before them, help a body recover quicker, but they do not help a player hit a baseball. And, despite the press' supposition to the contrary, there is no evidence that they help a player hit a ball farther. Bonds, from what I understand, is an arrogant *ss. And, unlike most players, either is not smart enough or is too honest to hide his contempt for sportswriters. In fact, from what I undestand, he is often "rude" to sportswriters. And, if you read the press, the disaffection is mutual and genuine. The "steroid scandal" is fueled by nothing more than sportswriters needing a story and getting even with Bonds at the same time; two birds with one stone.
<<I can still see little Freddie Patek crying in the dugout after losing a playoff series to the Yankees. Brings a smile to my face just remembering that.>>
And, I can still remember Brett's upper deck 3-run shot off a 98 mph Gossage fastball to clinch the Royals 3 game sweep of the Yankees in 1980. Brings a smile to my face just remembering that. I think it's funny that none of the achievements of the many of great Yankee players, like Chambliss' series-winning walk-off homer in '76 or the 9th inning comeback capped by Munson's series-winning single in '77, that brings a smile to your face. Instead, it's the disconsolation of the opposition in defeat? I guess that's the difference between you and me. BTW, "little" Freddie Patek hit .389/.400/.667 that series.
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Randy
1. The length of the NBA playoffs
2. The fact that the NHL is still in existence
3. Pittsburgh Steelers
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1. The length of the NBA playoffs
2. The fact that the NHL is still in existence
3. Pittsburgh Steelers >>
Oh, that's right, you're the Brownies fan, huh. Do you remember when.....maybe 50 years ago, they were actually a respected NFL franchise. Not just an absolute joke of a franchise all the way from the front office to the field? Bring back Jim Brown, please...
<< <i>I'll throw in my .02 on gripes. I LOVE football, but when they devote what seems like 108 straight hours to a bunch of half dressed college athletes putting on a dog and pony show (the Combine) for scouts, this may be a sign that the apocalypse is near... >>
I agree the Combine coverage was over the top this year..But you have to remember, the NFL Network has a 24 hour broadcast schedule to fill...In theory, I like the fact that the combine is viewable..While I don't enjoy watching it live, I like seeing the highlights..Who ran the fastest, who did the most reps on the bench press, etc..Gives you some insight into who might be going where in the draft...
Right now, the emphasis is on mini-camps...These are virtually meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but being able to turn on the TV and see the new rookies suited up and practicing with their new teams..Well, it just makes me feel like it's August already, and that's not a bad thing...
IMO, any football coverage is good football coverage..Even the minor league NFL Europa games!!!lol
Jason
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<< <i>I can still see little Freddie Patek crying in the dugout after losing a playoff series to the Yankees. Brings a smile to my face just remembering that. >>
I don't which I enjoyed more. This or the Yanks 15 years of irrevalance that followed?
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I can still see little Billy Martin crying in the dugout after Brett hit a home run off Gossage to win a game on July 24, 1983. The little twerp went crying to the umpire about too much pine tar on the bat.
<< <i>I can still see little Billy Martin crying in the dugout after Brett hit a home run off Gossage to win a game on July 24, 1983. The little twerp went crying to the umpire about too much pine tar on the bat. >>
Yes, darn that clearly written Major League Baseball rule that prohibits a player from doing such a thing.
1. Unions for the players screwing the older players.
2. The guaranteed contract. If you suck, you suck, your cut. If you are better than your contract, negotiate. Just like a real job.
3. Fans whining when a player leaves for more money. They scream loyalty for the team. But when this fan gets a 7% raise to go to a competitor they will jump ship without batting an eye.
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softparade, the Royals- Yanks rivalry started before then. The Yanks took the A.L. pennant three straight years, 76,77,78, beating the Royals each time. Then the Royals finally won, in 80, that's why that year is so sweet for Royals fans. The rivalry was fueled by incidents like Nettles starting a fight with Brett after George slid hard into third with a triple in 1977.
<< <i>That is a VERY good point. From late 1979 right throught the 1980's the Yankees and Royals had a FIERCE rivalry. I remember every one of those years. Also, I talked about the Sox/Yankee rivalry in another thread. It rises and falls over time, when I was a kid the rivalry was strong .... VERY STRONG. Back then even the players hated each other. That is not the case anymore but still, since the late 90's the rivalry is at a peak yet again. For those who are truly Sox and Yankee fans trust me, IT IS A BIG DEAL.
softparade, the Royals- Yanks rivalry started before then. The Yanks took the A.L. pennant three straight years, 76,77,78, beating the Royals each time. Then the Royals finally won, in 80, that's why that year is so sweet for Royals fans. The rivalry was fueled by incidents like Nettles starting a fight with Brett after George slid hard into third with a triple in 1977. >>
Don't forget the cross body block that Hal McRae put on Willie Randolph. That still makes my blood boil.
Interesting quote from George Brett:
It was Yankee Thurman Munson, though, who was a hero to Brett in that '78 fight with Nettles in KC. "Craig and I are throwing haymakers at each other, and the next thing I know I'm on the bottom," Brett recalled. "And Thurman is lying on top of me with his catching gear on and saying, `Don't worry, George. I won't let anybody hit you when you're down.' And they didn't."
still makes me sick.
julen
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Since it's all about the money, and since ratings = money to ESPN/FOX, would they push the market #30 Royals and their tiny KC TV audience? I think not. They would still give us more Red Sox/Yankees under the auspices of "the great rivalry."
And THAT is why I hate the Yankees/Red Sox crap. Not the players; I love watching those players. The Yankees are the most professional and classy bunch of athletes of any major sport. They handle themselves with 20th century dignity. (Except for Curt Schilling, the Red Sox do as well.)
But the contrived hype machine is absolutely nauseating.
Nick
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As far as steroids in pro football, no doubt it is rampant throughout the NFL but pales in comparison to an even bigger issue - obesity after the playing days are over. The average lifespan of an NFL player is 55 years.
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<< <i>And, I can still remember Brett's upper deck 3-run shot off a 98 mph Gossage fastball to clinch the Royals 3 game sweep of the Yankees in 1980. Brings a smile to my face just remembering that. >>
Oh, yes
The only thing I loved more than that was Gossage talking that bonehead Dick Williams into letting him pitch to Gibson at Tiger Stadium four years later. I swear, I love that homer more than Gibson's miracle shot off of Eckersley, deservedly legendary as that is.
Silly trivia: the Pine Tar game took place on my 16th birthday, which was also the 5th anniversary of the first of Billy Martin's dozen or so firings as Yankee Manager.
Also, as much as I loved the Royals and hated the Yankees then, I still love seeing the Chambliss homer. Chris was My Favorite Brave™ for his whole tenure in Atlanta.
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And the Celtics just gave Doc Rivers an extension...Wow!
2. NBA
3. Did I mention NBA? I would put that #3.
2. The SuperBowl halftime show.
3. Midget Porn Stars. Just doesn't do it for me.
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2) The NFL draft. Whenever this goes off I discover how little I actually know about football. I've usually heard of about 60% of the first 10 picks, and after that I've heard of nobody unless they are either a) a quarterback, or b) a player from either Michigan or Michigan State. I usually end up tuning in for the first two or three picks, just to see whose career the mighty Lions have ruined, then check back in 5 hrs. later to hear Mel Kiper gushing over a random cornerback from North Carolina State.
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^^quite possibly the funniest thing these 2 eyes have ever read.
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