Gary promised a refund and didn't send it...
jonnybro
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I still didn't get a refund from Gary after he told me to send the cards back. I have the tracking number for sending 80's basketball unopened packs back to him. What do you recommend I do? He's not answering my emails either after cards were sent back.
thanks, john
thanks, john
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collateral damage is the term i think i'm looking for here.
julen
RIP GURU
<< <i>Gary promised a refund and didn't send it... >>
There's a shock.
I genuinely feel bad for all you guys taken by this.........guy.
shawn
that would be cool.
<< <i>find him at the National or another show and kick his ass.
that would be cool. >>
And don't forget the DVD recorder!!
I'm in the same boat. Tried to PM him and email, never heard a word. Very disappointing that he chose to refund some people's money but not others.
DON MATTINGLY 1984 Fleer #131 ROOKIE PSA 9 Mint YANKEES (#230105262990) -- View Item
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1989 FLEER FOR THE RECORD DON MATTINGLY # 6 PSA 10 (#140104129411) -- View Item
(5) 1978/79 78-79 Topps Wax Packs- HOFers (#330090063314) -- View Item
1986-87 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack DISPLAY BOX (#270089215241) -- View Item
wholesale lot of 100 flexible mixed tongue rings (#200084451393) -- View Item
1985 DONRUSS WAX BASEBALL BOX (#220077307455) -- View Item
1984 Topps Football Box from case Elway Marino RC (#220074938176) *********OVER $300 !!!
He obviously could'nt care less about you, so..............................
1. find him, cut off his nuts, feed him said nuts
or
2. set up bogus ebay accounts, bid on his items neg him till he pisses blood
Alot of people were hurt by this turd. May Uncle Fester reap one day what he has sown.
Was still on Naxcom last time I saw.
this would show him we don't play around on these here boards and also build invaluable repoire w/ the graders and president of the company!
julen
RIP GURU
<< <i>i'd at least buy a bunch of stuff from his ebay store and leave lots of negative feedback. set up a dummy ebay account. >>
Love this idea. Now thats thinking outside the box.
Honestly, go to the nationals, if he doesnt pay, take some of his display stuff, let him stop you
joe
<< <i>wholesale lot of 100 flexible mixed tongue rings (#200084451393) -- View Item >>
NICE!
an illegal act.
<< <i>So far, every suggested solution has involved perpetrating
an illegal act.
With all due respect....
yankeeno's idea was not illegal.
Likes the female angle, I suppose.
Idiot.
<< <i>find him at Nationals, drag him over to psa booth and give him a cleveland steamer in front of the graders and joe orlando.
this would show him we don't play around on these here boards and also build invaluable repoire w/ the graders and president of the company!
julen >>
Thanks julen, for bringing that up.
cleveland steamer
Brings up memories of the past and they weren't so good .
You definitley have to do something about it , but try to remember to be Tactful .
May I suggest
Where getting even is the name of the game .
http://www.force-ten.com/revenge1.html
There are countles ways to get even while staying just inside the realm of legality .
OK well maybe you'll be standing on the line or maybe just a pinch over it , but he drew first blood
Geordie
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
Was ripped off in the '80s baseball rip. Boy, nothing like a huge pile of resealed excrement.
Still have the stack and wrappers. Why? I have no idea.
<< <i>I think he voted for Bill Clinton . I hate liars. >>
Lol!
Bush's lies cost 1000s of young American lives and many thousands more injured, plus 100s of thousands of family members left crushed!
U know the "weapons of mass destruction" lie that lead to us invading Iraq!
U think that the Clinton lie, that he "didn't inhale" or "didn't have sex" lie was worse than Bush's lie?
Well go ahead and tell that to the 1000s of grieving mothers of dead GIs!
(Yeah right! Bad Intell! My @-ss!)
rd
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
I still hate liars anyway, no matter where the source .
Thanks.
Steve
<< <i>With all due respect lets please keep politics off the boards.
Thanks.
Steve >>
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<< <i>I think he voted for Bill Clinton . I hate liars. >>
Lol!
Bush's lies cost 1000s of young American lives and many thousands more injured, plus 100s of thousands of family members left crushed!
U know the "weapons of mass destruction" lie that lead to us invading Iraq!
U think that the Clinton lie, that he "didn't inhale" or "didn't have sex" lie was worse than Bush's lie?
Well go ahead and tell that to the 1000s of grieving mothers of dead GIs!
(Yeah right! Bad Intell! My @-ss!)
rd >>
LOL.....check this out...
What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD
JANUARY 30, 2004 | Printable Version
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source
Linkified so you can check the sources! now THAT is funny!!!!
Than you do with just a kind word .
{ Al Capone }
<< <i>Now that is good stuff Goose >>
They love to dish it out until someone shoves it right back in their face.....
Everyone made a mistake.
History will tell if it was a mistake or not .
just my 2.5 cents
3 grand for a piece of paper and a picture , so I do know the frustration and the anger that you feel .
I asked , No certificate of authenticity ?
he said , if you don't know an authentic Babe Ruth signature , you shouldn't be looking to purchase one , there are a lot of scammers out there .
No -ones fault but my own and I have learned a valuable lesson to say the least .
Needless to say . . . This guy isn't around anymore .
You will never see me trying to sell this to some unsuspecting collector .
I believe in Karma . . . . I also believe it is a powerful and largely misunderstood force .
<< <i>This is a Ruth signature I purchased about 5 years ago, only to find out it is bogus .
3 grand for a piece of paper and a picture , so I do know the frustration and the anger that you feel .
I asked , No certificate of authenticity ?
he said , if you don't know an authentic Babe Ruth signature , you shouldn't be looking to purchase one , there are a lot of scammers out there .
No -ones fault but my own and I have learned a valuable lesson to say the least .
Needless to say . . . This guy isn't around anymore .
It isn't that difficult if you know where to look, to find old stationary, envelopes and such like that. Then a forger can simply sign the paper. An old scam which obviously, unfortunately still works.
Frankly, sorry to give you my opinion, but that's a terrible looking fake Ruth - there are much better fakes out there than that.
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<< <i>This is a Ruth signature I purchased about 5 years ago, only to find out it is bogus .
3 grand for a piece of paper and a picture , so I do know the frustration and the anger that you feel .
I asked , No certificate of authenticity ?
he said , if you don't know an authentic Babe Ruth signature , you shouldn't be looking to purchase one , there are a lot of scammers out there .
No -ones fault but my own and I have learned a valuable lesson to say the least .
Needless to say . . . This guy isn't around anymore .
It isn't that difficult if you know where to look, to find old stationary, envelopes and such like that. Then a forger can simply sign the paper. An old scam which obviously, unfortunately still works.
Yea . . . Steve , I know that now, But it was one of those had to be there type of deals , he was hitting me with stuff like , I have a customer comming in to take a look at it in 2 hours and it's probably going to go . . . Plus my own ignorance indeed and also I have a few authentic Ruth signatures and it looked dead on to me ?
Also there werre a few guys in the store sayin, well if he don't take it , I'm going to , So I did it .
The thought of letting this get away from me for 3 grand was just too much honestly , but in the end . . . . the rest is history .
Rest assured though, I would never try to get rid of this on anyone else and as proof , I post it here .
Besides . . . . Most of my friends don't know it is a forgery , for what that's worth .
And Mr 1989 thanks . . . I fully expected to get my nose rubbed in it as soon as I posted how I was fooled .
It's all good , If I can help prevent this happening to anyone else in the future . . . I suppose it's worth something , even if it isn't in the monitary fashion .
1 thing though about it and what brought me to believe it has to be authentic , I saw the envelope , with the date and the discoloration and just figured , who the heck would keep this in such decent condition if it weren't authentic and I based a majority of my decision to buy just on that alone .
I really had no idea .
Frankly, sorry to give you my opinion, but that's a terrible looking fake Ruth - there are much better fakes out there than that. >>
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<< <i>This is a Ruth signature I purchased about 5 years ago, only to find out it is bogus .
3 grand for a piece of paper and a picture , so I do know the frustration and the anger that you feel .
I asked , No certificate of authenticity ?
he said , if you don't know an authentic Babe Ruth signature , you shouldn't be looking to purchase one , there are a lot of scammers out there .
No -ones fault but my own and I have learned a valuable lesson to say the least .
Needless to say . . . This guy isn't around anymore .
It isn't that difficult if you know where to look, to find old stationary, envelopes and such like that. Then a forger can simply sign the paper. An old scam which obviously, unfortunately still works.
Yea . . . Steve , I know that now, But it was one of those had to be there type of deals , he was hitting me with stuff like , I have a customer comming in to take a look at it in 2 hours and it's probably going to go . . . Plus my own ignorance indeed and also I have a few authentic Ruth signatures and it looked dead on to me ?
Also there werre a few guys in the store sayin, well if he don't take it , I'm going to , So I did it .
The thought of letting this get away from me for 3 grand was just too much honestly , but in the end . . . . the rest is history .
Rest assured though, I would never try to get rid of this on anyone else and as proof , I post it here .
Besides . . . . Most of my friends don't know it is a forgery , for what that's worth .
And Mr 1989 thanks . . . I fully expected to get my nose rubbed in it as soon as I posted how I was fooled .
It's all good , If I can help prevent this happening to anyone else in the future . . . I suppose it's worth something , even if it isn't in the monitary fashion .
1 thing though about it and what brought me to believe it has to be authentic , I saw the envelope , with the date and the discoloration and just figured , who the heck would keep this in such decent condition if it weren't authentic and I based a majority of my decision to buy just on that alone .
I really had no idea .
Frankly, sorry to give you my opinion, but that's a terrible looking fake Ruth - there are much better fakes out there than that. >>
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Hey - these con artists are very clever...they fool lots of people. Especially if they are in a position of trust or perceived trust. Four summers ago I visited Cooperstown with the fam, and after visiting the Hall, I basically scoured the local card shops which are within easy walking distance of the Hall. First shop I walk into, there's a Mantle-Maris autographed poster hanging on his wall with a price tag of $1,500. I swear - I had never seen such fake looking autographs in my life...I mean it was so obvious the same person signed both autos - LOL. But of course this POS weasel card dealer is in a position of trust to the average tourist, owning a card shop and all right in Cooperstown, so he must be legit, right? But what are you gonna do?...call the police and point out an obvious fraud? - The police chief is probably the guy's brother-in-law - LOL. So I was just angry knowing he's gonna scam some tourist and I was in the mood to F* with him a little bit. So I conversed with him for a few minutes, and offered him $800 for it...it was fun to hear him come up with "the story" how he hates "giving it away" but yes he would take the $800. I told him I just have to okay it with the wife...and walked out of that stinkin' scammer's card shop.
The guy was in a set location , everyone looked happy , he obviously wasn't going anywhere , I could always bring it back ?
I was sure as heck this guy couldn't have been dealing in forgeries or he must have been caught by now .
let me just say , I have viewed at least 200 or more Ruth sigs before I visited this place and it looked dead on to me , I was sure I was getting the better of the deal .
until later .
I'm certain I'm not alone , it just really stinks because I would never do that to anyone .
I do business with a handshake and my word is my bond and anyone that knows me knows that to be fact .
I'm not meaning this to sound like crying over spilled milk at all either , just a " I had this happen to me to kinda thing , in hopes that anyone within eye shot of this just be a little more careful than me , these scammers can feel the excitement in your facial expressions , I'm certain of it . . . But Steve ?!!!
Thanks for gettin even ^ 5
You get even for all .
My one wish is that I could see this person just one more time
And I'll just leave it at that .