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Awesome Basketball Rack

1989FleerBillRipkencollector1989FleerBillRipkencollector Posts: 4,590
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Whoa !!

Not bad at all. ebay

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  • VolverVolver Posts: 753
    Cool, but not for $500
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    The upside down cards on top always make me cringe for some reason. Takes a lot away from the visual appeal. Pretty flukey that Bird would be on top of all 3 sections. Maybe some math majors here could calculate the odds of having the same card on top of all three sections (there are 168 cars in the set)?

    Lee

    Edit: I guess it would be 168x168x168? If so, that would make the odds roughly 1:4,700,000. Kooky.
  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭
    The odds are 3725 to one.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One hundred billion million to one. image

    I'm also always lerry when I see racks with the same star on top and on bottom, etc. How come we never see racks with multiple scrubs showing?


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  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭✭
    I see the odds at 28224 to 1. That's 168 times 168. You don't multiply by 168 three times, because the first card can be any card from the set. The odds that the next card is the same as the first is 168 to one. The odds that the third card is the same as the second is also 168 to one. You multiply these two odds together to get the possibility of exactly picking the second and third cards. I believe this correct, anybody think differently?
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  • GOODLIEUGOODLIEU Posts: 629 ✭✭
    LOL For $500 who cares anyway? You could probably pick up three PSA 9 Bird's from this set tomorrow for under $75 and use the rest of those over produced cards to line your Birdcage.
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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I've seen and opened plenty of racks from this issue but have never seen two of the same player on one side let alone three on the same side! Pretty rare if you ask me. Not sure what's it's worth. Maybe a lot to a Larry Bird type collector who has to have it all.

    I once saw a '87 Fleer Cello with Barry Bonds on top and bottom. This was at a show in Chicago like in 1996. The seller wanted $100 for it back then. Might have been worth it as I've never seen another like it in the past 10 years.
  • LWMMLWMM Posts: 471 ✭


    << <i>I see the odds at 28224 to 1. That's 168 times 168. You don't multiply by 168 three times, because the first card can be any card from the set. The odds that the next card is the same as the first is 168 to one. The odds that the third card is the same as the second is also 168 to one. You multiply these two odds together to get the possibility of exactly picking the second and third cards. I believe this correct, anybody think differently? >>



    That would give the odds for ANY player appearing three times, but I believe the odds for one chosen player (in this case, Bird) would be 168x168x168 (4,741,632 to 1)
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I once saw a '87 Fleer Cello with Barry Bonds on top and bottom. This was at a show in Chicago like in 1996. The seller wanted $100 for it back then. Might have been worth it as I've never seen another like it in the past 10 years.

    I've noticed over the years, and especially lately on ebay, many cellos with the same stars on the top and bottom of cello packs. Frankly, I'm very suspicious of these packs, especially the ones with rookie cards of the same player on the top and bottom of the same pack.


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  • bjork73bjork73 Posts: 2,246
    Somebody should email the seller asking them why they haven't had the rack graded and see their response... I know it's not rookie-year, but seriously, a rack like that, if it was given a high enough grade to have it declared unaltered, would probably net a couple grand?

    EDIT: well, probably not quite that high for 89-90 (I was thinking the pack was 81-82 Topps for some reason, time for bed image ), unless it were Jordan instead of Bird.
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  • Cokin75Cokin75 Posts: 243 ✭✭


    << <i>I've noticed over the years, and especially lately on ebay, many cellos with the same stars on the top and bottom of cello packs. Frankly, I'm very suspicious of these packs, especially the ones with rookie cards of the same player on the top and bottom of the same pack. >>


    Agreed, back in this era, I was a childhood rack/cello "searcher". I would always root through the box of packs looking for Brewers on top. I don't ever remember seeing one with the same player on top and bottom. In fact, I could probably count on both hands the number of times that I received two of the same player in a Topps pack (and I opened thousands of packs). In fact, I found Topps collation and quality control (except for the o/c cards) to be pretty good back in the day.

    I am very skeptical about these packs.
  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭
    The odds can be calculated as follows:
    Chance that a Larry Bird card is in a 1989 Fleer rack pack: 25%
    Chance that a Larry Bird card is in any one of the 3 rows: 8.3%
    Chance that Larry Bird is positioned on top (or any dinstinct location) within one of the rows: 7%.
    To find the chances of the row containing both a Larry Bird card AND that it be positioned on top of the row: (.07 x .083)= .59% (that is less than 1%)
    To find the chances of all 3 rows containing both a Larry Bird card AND that they all be positioned on top of the rows: .59% (or .0059) to the third power.

    That assumes that each row is collated independant of one another, which may not be the case.
  • 1989FleerBillRipkencollector1989FleerBillRipkencollector Posts: 4,590
    1989/90 Fleer Rack Pack - 3 Larry Bird Cards On Top 1/1
    Sale price: $400.00


    I offered $100. Not dying to get it, but thought it was really neat. $400 for it, wow. I agree something like that should be slabbed.

    I have seen alot of 87 Topps cellos with same player top/bottom. Bonds and I once bought a Palmeiro the day after the steroid thing. I didnt even have a clue about it and wondered why I got it so cheap.
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