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Tickets Popped for my Favre Collection

Well, it only took 2 calendar months for this sub to pop. I guess I still dont understand how they grade stubs, as many of the stubs show only removal wear. No creases, rips, holes etc. here is what psa says about stub grading.

STUBS The same basic criteria (as for full tickets) apply to stubs, with the additional tearing/removal factor of the "audit stub" (by the gate attendant) or, in some cases, a "fan stub." The shape and severity of the tear/removal of the stub, with all other condition qualities being equal, may affect the final grade of a stub. As expected, the more severe and less defined the tear/removal, the lower the grade of the stub. In some cases, no excess tearing (beyond the acceptable limits for a stub) will be allowed within a particular grade. For example, a PSA Gem Mint 10 "fan stub" may not exhibit any evidence of excess tearing at all. Submitters will have the option of choosing not to have a grade assigned to the tickets and, instead, merely have the tickets authenticated and encapsulated. Those tickets will be labeled "AUTHENTIC." Graders also reserve the right, based on eye-appeal, not to render a grade on a severely damaged ticket stub and, instead, apply the "AUTHENTIC" label. That way, the ticket is authenticated and protected in the PSA holder - it simply is void of a specific grade.

So I will have to check when I see them again. I dont care that much about the grades as nearly all are for a Favre Ticket Set that i am working on. So its not like I have a ton of tickets for each game to look through. It was nice to see my Dad and My tickect from the last game in Milwaukee come out good. I was hoping that they would put our seats on the label but they didnt. I will have to check the one that said it was trimmed? And the other that didnt get slabbed because of no holder, makes no sense as I have one that was slabbed and authenticated and there are others on the POP report. So go figure!?!?!

Here are the grades.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 609232


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12563592 1999 DALLAS COWBOYS FULL DALLAS-27, GREEN BAY-13 NOVEMBER 14 8
2 12563593 2006 DETROIT LIONS FULL GREEN BAY-31, DETROIT-24 SEPT.24, B.FAVRE 400TH TD PASS 9
3 12563594 2000 MIAMI DOLPHINS STUB MIAMI-28, GREEN BAY-20 OCTOBER 29 4
4 12563595 1998 MINNESOTA VIKINGS STUB MINNESOTA-28, GREEN BAY-14 NOVEMBER 22 6
5 12563596 2004 WASHINGTON REDSKINS STUB GREEN BAY-28, WASHINGTON-14 OCTOBER 31 2
6 12563597 1994 DETROIT LIONS FULL DETROIT-30, GREEN BAY-20 JANUARY 2 6
7 12563598 1996 T.B. BUCCANEERS FULL GREEN BAY-34, TAMPA BAY-3 SEPT.1, FAVRE 4 TD PASSES 9
8 12563599 2001 TENNESSEE TITANS FULL TENNESSEE-26, GREEN BAY-20 DECEMBER 16 2
9 12563600 2005 DETROIT LIONS FULL DETROIT-17, GREEN BAY-3 SEPTEMBER 11 6
10 12563601 2004 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES FULL PHILADELPHIA-47, GREEN BAY-17 DECEMBER 5 1
11 12563602 2004 HOUSTON TEXANS FULL GREEN BAY-16, HOUSTON-13 NOVEMBER 21 6
12 12563603 2004 MINNESOTA VIKINGS STUB GREEN BAY-34, MINNESOTA-31 DECEMBER 24 3
13 12563604 1993 CHICAGO BEARS FULL CHICAGO-30, GREEN BAY-17 DECEMBER 5 9
14 12563605 2005 GREEN BAY PACKERS FULL GREEN BAY-16, DETROIT-13 DECEMBER 11 2
15 12563606 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS FULL GREEN BAY-45, ST.LOUIS-17 FAVRE 200TH CONSECUTIVE START 6
16 12563607 1998 NEW YORK GIANTS STUB GREEN BAY-37,NEW YORK-3 NOV.15 FAVRE 200TH TD PASS/25,000 YDS 6
17 12563608 1997 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP STUB GREEN BAY-23, SAN FRANCISCO-10 JANUARY 11, 1998 2
18 12563609 1992 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-17, PITTSBURGH-3 BRETT FAVRE'S 1ST NFL START 2
19 12563610 1993 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB PHILADELPHIA-20, GREEN BAY-17 SEPTEMBER 12 5
20 12563611 1996 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-23, SAN FRANCISCO-20 OCTOBER 14 3
21 12563612 1997 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-21, TAMPA BAY-16 OCTOBER 5 3
22 12563613 1997 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-17, ST.LOUIS-7 NOVEMBER 9 1
23 12563614 1997 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-45, DALLAS-17 NOVEMBER 23 4
24 12563615 1997 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-31, BUFFALO-21 DECEMBER 20 3
25 12563616 1997 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-20, DETROIT-10 NOVEMBER 2 1
26 12563617 1998 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-26, CHICAGO-20 DECEMBER 13 4
27 12563618 1998 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BEY-38, DETROIT-19 SEPTEMBER 6 3
28 12563619 1999 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB CAROLINA-33, GREEN BAY-31 DECEMBER 12 6
29 12563620 1999 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB SEATTLE-27, GREEN BAY-7 NOVEMBER 1 2
30 12563621 1999 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB CHICAGO-14, GREEN BAY-13 NOVEMBER 7 5
31 12563622 2000 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB CHICAGO-27, GREN BAY-24 OCTOBER 1 2
32 12563623 2000 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-26, MINNESOTA-20 NOVEMBER 6 5
33 12563624 2000 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-26, INDIANAPOLIS-24 NOVEMBER 19 5
34 12563625 2000 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-26, DETROIT-13 DECEMBER 10 5
35 12563626 2000 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-17, TAMPA BAY-14 DECEMBER 24 6
36 12563627 2001 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-17, CHICAGO-7 DECEMBER 9 2
37 12563628 2001 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-30, CLEVELAND-7 DECEMBER 23 5
38 12563629 2001 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-24, MINNESOTA-13 DECEMBER 30 5
39 12563630 2001 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-37, WASHINGTON-0 SEPTEMBER 24 5
40 12563631 2002 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-37, ATLANTA-34 SEPTEMBER 8 5
41 12563632 2002 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-30, WASHINGTON-9 OCTOBER 20 5
42 12563633 2002 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-10, BUFFALO-0 DECEMBER 22 6
43 12563634 2002 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-24, MIAMI-10 NOVEMBER 4 5
44 12563635 2003 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB KANSAS CITY-40, GREEN BAY-34 OCTOBER 12 Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
45 12563636 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-41, DALLAS-20 OCTOBER 24 3
46 12563637 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB N.Y.GIANTS-14, GREEN BAY-7 OCTOBER 3 3
47 12563638 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-34, MINNESOTA-31 NOVEMBER 14 5
48 12563639 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-45, ST.LOUIS-17 FAVRE 200TH CONSECUTIVE START 3
49 12563640 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-16, DETROIT-13 DECEMBER 12 2
50 12563641 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB JACKSONVILLE-28, GREEN BAY-25 DECEMBER 19 1
51 12563642 2005 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB CLEVELAND-26, GREEN BAY-24 SEPTEMBER 18 2
52 12563643 2005 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB TAMPA BAY-17, GREEN BAY-16 SEPTEMBER 25 5
53 12563644 2005 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB CHICAGO-24, GREEN BAY-17 DECEMBER 25 2
54 12563645 2006 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-23, SEATTLE-17 JANUARY 1 2
55 12563646 2000 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-49, ARIZONA-24 JANUARY 2 5
56 12563647 2006 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-9, MINNESOTA-7 DECEMBER 21 5
57 12563648 2006 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB NEW ORLEANS-34, GREEN BAY-27 SEPTEMBER 17 3
58 12563649 1996 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP STUB GREEN BAY-30, CAROLINA-13 JANUARY 12, 1997 Not Holdered, No Holder Available
59 12563650 2004 NFC WILD CARD GAME STUB MINNESOTA-31, GREEN BAY-17 JANUARY 9, 2005 5
60 12563651 1995 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP STUB DALLAS-38, GREEN BAY-27 JANUARY 14, 1996 5
61 12563652 1992 HOUSTON OILERS STUB GREEN BAY-16, HOUSTON-14 DECEMBER 13 5
62 12563653 1998 SUPER BOWL XXXII STUB DENVER-31, GREEN BAY-24 MVP-TERRELL DAVIS; PURPLE VAR. 3
63 12563654 1998 SUPER BOWL XXXII STUB DENVER-31, GREEN BAY-24 MVP-TERRELL DAVIS; PURPLE VAR. 8
64 12563655 1997 NFC DIVISNL.PLAYOFF STUB GREEN BAY-21, TAMPA BAY-10 JANUARY 4, 1998 4
65 12563656 2004 PGA CHAMPIONSHIP STUB RND.2,SINGH/LEONARD-LDRS.(135) AUG.13, WHISTLING STRAITS 1
66 12563657 1994 GREEN BAY PACKERS FULL GREEN BAY-21,ATLANTA-17 DEC.18 LAST GM.MILWAUKEE COUNTY STAD. 5
67 12563658 1994 GREEN BAY PACKERS FULL GREEN BAY-21,ATLANTA-17 DEC.18 LAST GM.MILWAUKEE COUNTY STAD. 3
68 12563659 2003 CHICAGO BULLS FULL BULLS-104, WIZARDS-97 JAN.24 JORDAN'S LAST GAME IN CHICAGO 8
69 12563660 2003 CHICAGO BULLS FULL BULLS-104, WIZARDS-97 JAN.24 JORDAN'S LAST GAME IN CHICAGO 8

Date Received: 03/06/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 05/03/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified



Packers Fan for Life
Collecting:
Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's

Comments

  • qmayerqmayer Posts: 286


    << <i>27 12563618 1998 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BEY-38, DETROIT-19 SEPTEMBER 6 3 >>



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  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    didnt notice that one, its funny.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    So, let me get this straight. Someone trimmed a friggin/ ticket? Jay, did you attend any of these games besides the one with your Dad?
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    some of them yes. not all of those are my tickets. too bad i didnt keep them from the start. we have milwaukee season tickets. i have been to all of our games since 92. the pga and jordan are my tickets as well.

    i doubt that someone did but maybe, probably to clean it up a bit. i will have to take a look.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • I kept all my Packers stubs since the 80's. Is there really a market for stubs? I kept a program and a stub from each game. Who knew. I figured only full tickets would be worth anything.
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    not sure what the real market is if there is any. however, i would be willing to take any of the favre's off your hands if you would like. they normally sell between $7-12 for home stubs. sometimes more for away games or big events. on ebay there are a few bidders but not that many.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • sfmays24sfmays24 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭
    jradke4,

    I might have a few GB-SF tickets to offer... I know I saved the great NFC Division (postseason) game a few years back. I'll check when I get hoem and let you know.

    Mike
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    Mike,

    Thanks. Please let me know if you find any!!

    Jay
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • I'll have to check to see what I have. I know I have almost all the home game stubs from 1991-2000. I also have most of the playoff games as well. It's just a matter of finding them!

  • There is a big time market for the Favre stubs.
    Especially his first NFL win stub/ticket and his first NFL start stub/ticket.

    There was a stub from the Sept. 27th, 1992 game v. Steelers (Favre's First NFL Start) that sold for $250 less than a week ago.
    I would imagine that the Bengels ticket from the week before would grab $150-$200 as well.
    I am not sure about any others. I would also be interested in the 1st NFL win ticket (v. Bengels from 9-20-1992), if you have one.

    Jay, when you get them back, can you send a scan of your...
    1994 GREEN BAY PACKERS FULL GREEN BAY-21,ATLANTA-17 DEC.18 LAST GM.MILWAUKEE COUNTY STAD.
    stub? I sent one in recently that I thought was a full ticket, but it came back marked as a stub.

    Here are my recent tickets submission too, not to steal Jay's thunder! Just authenticated; no grades on these.



    PSA Order Status for Submission # 4466778


    LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
    1 60115707 1992 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-17, PITTSBURGH-3 BRETT FAVRE'S 1ST NFL START N0
    2 60115708 1994 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-21,ATLANTA-17 DEC.18 LAST GM.MILWAUKEE COUNTY STAD. N0
    3 60115709 1996 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-41, DENVER-6 DECEMBER 8 N0
    4 60115710 1997 SUPER BOWL XXXI FULL GREEN BAY-35, NEW ENGLAND-21 MVP-DESMOND HOWARD;PURPLE VAR. N0
    5 60115711 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-41, DALLAS-20 OCTOBER 24 N0
    6 60115712 2004 GREEN BAY PACKERS FULL GREEN BAY-45, ST.LOUIS-17 FAVRE 200TH CONSECUTIVE START N0
    7 60115713 2004 NFC WILD CARD GAME STUB MINNESOTA-31, GREEN BAY-17 JANUARY 9, 2005 N0
    8 60115714 2006 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-31, ARIZONA-14 OCTOBER 29 N0
    9 60115715 2006 GREEN BAY PACKERS STUB GREEN BAY-31, ARIZONA-14 OCTOBER 29 N0
    10 60115716 2006 CHICAGO BEARS FULL GREEN BAY-26, CHICAGO-7 DECEMBER 31 N0

    Date Received: 03/06/2007
    Date of Grades Posted: 04/24/2007
    Date Shipped: 04/24/2007
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    No problem. I will scan them. Not sure about a stub for that game. The ticket takers werent ripping the tickets, just putting a red sharpie line on the back of the tickets. I know that for a fact.

    I have some from that sub that were graded as stubs when I thought that they were full tickets as well. Whoever ripped them at the gate did a perfect job of pull off the perferated stub. They looked to me like they were removed from the season ticket sheet, not done at a game. But those were away games and I have no idea as to how the season ticket holders got their tickets.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • Right. As I understood the 1994 game, the tickets weren't being torn, but rather marked with a marker (red, black, etc.). The back of my ticket is totally clean.
    What I don't understand is that it is the same size as other full tickets from that era, but marked as a stub.
    How was it determined that it was a stub and not a full ticket? The tickets that I have seen from that time didn't have a perforation and the ticket would have to be torn.
    I know what you mean about tearing it from the sheets of tickets, but it still looks like a full ticket to me.

    I put up some scans in my set. I hope those help.

    Lambeau Legend 4 Tickets
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    wow you had a nice turnaround time. ours were logged in at the same time. they must have liked your smaller order better. That ticket looks alot like mine. But I will have to check. What I dont get is why they say there is no holder available for the NFC Champ. Game. I already have one slabbed.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • I honestly didn't think they were going to slab the playoff ticket. It shows that they only do regular season and Super Bowl tickets.
    I was hoping, and got lucky.

    I didn't know PSA would single out the tickets for records/milestones. Like the 400TD ticket, 200TD/25,000 yards. That's kinda cool.

    BTW, who trims a ticket? I realize that using a razor blade on a perforation is considered trimming by PSA. Is that the case? I mean, this is a stub, afterall!?
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    well, then i will just have to tear the bottom a bit then and send it back. the it wont be trimed anymore. the only way i could see that someone trimed it was to look nicer, not to scam anyone. i think i paid around $20 for it if memory serves. since it was an away game i will pay more than for home games.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
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