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Coins no longer accepted in slots at Mohegan Sun Casino

ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
More bad news for pocket change and golden dollars.



"Coins Dropped from Slots"

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some of the old people can't carry the coins >>

    Are slot players getting older like coin collectors?
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Although I am only about an hour and a half from the two casinos in CT, I never go. I don't like casinos, and if I have to give my money away, I would rather put it to better use. With that said, I am a little saddened to hear that they are no longer taking coins. I don't like the idea of an audio tape of money falling into the tray! Cheesy!!
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's interesting that it's the penny and nickel slots that killed the dollar coin slots.
  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    Well most have used Bills only for years, you win you print a ticket and take it to the counter. If a jackpot is hit they come to you and fillout all the paper work for your Uncle. Casino's around here go around and have to empty these machines at various times because they become to full with money. Most when emptied have at least 15 grand in them and I won't be surprised when you have to go to the counter and put money on your "Players Club" card to play. This would save them a lot of time and money. Around here even tellers are getting the ax soon since they have machines now that make chage and cash tickets for winners.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know how people get silver strikes but are those awarded in coin slot machines? Will this move to coin-less also kill silver strikes?
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Actually, Mohegan's remaining coin machines typically were half dollar and dollar machines, which used Ikes and JFK's.
  • I'm not a big gambler at all, but I think slot machines are (were) fun. I played these ticket-type slot machines for the first time a few months ago. I used to enjoy putting a coin in and (hopefully) seeing and hearing my winnings drop out the bottom. All this was, though, was pressing buttons and watching numbers on a screen. The fake prerecorded clanking change sound just wasn't cutting it for me. I got bored with it all before I even spent $20, and quit. This place was packed with the old and the infirm. I've never seen so many wheelchairs, canes, and oxygen tanks in one place since I worked in a hospital. And of course, they all smoked. The places was FILLED with the stench of cigarette and cigar smoke. There was NO escape. Old people frantically smoking and pumping "money" into the machines. One old lady in a wheelchair was smoking and working the controls to several slot machines simultaneously with her cane. They even had a "credit department" back by the high-stakes area. One guy was in there, armed with a handful of papers and three packs of cigarettes. Who knows what tragedies take place at that desk.

    I think that this kind of system facilitates the experience of what I perceived to be their core customer base, namely, compulsive gamblers. The "recreational" gambler seemed to be outnumbered by a wide margin on my visit. They won't care about the changes because they're not there for ambiance. I'm sure it's easier for the casino and might even get people to spend more since they're never touching money, like with credit cards.

    However, anyone wanting a bit of the old-time experience will be unsatisfied. I won't use them again; it's pointless.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not a big gambler at all, but I think slot machines are (were) fun. I played these ticket-type slot machines for the first time a few months ago. I used to enjoy putting a coin in and (hopefully) seeing and hearing my winnings drop out the bottom. All this was, though, was pressing buttons and watching numbers on a screen. The fake prerecorded clanking change sound just wasn't cutting it for me. I got bored with it all before I even spent $20, and quit. This place was packed with the old and the infirm. I've never seen so many wheelchairs, canes, and oxygen tanks in one place since I worked in a hospital. And of course, they all smoked. The places was FILLED with the stench of cigarette and cigar smoke. There was NO escape. Old people frantically smoking and pumping "money" into the machines. One old lady in a wheelchair was smoking and working the controls to several slot machines simultaneously with her cane. They even had a "credit department" back by the high-stakes area. One guy was in there, armed with a handful of papers and three packs of cigarettes. Who knows what tragedies take place at that desk.

    I think that this kind of system facilitates the experience of what I perceived to be their core customer base, namely, compulsive gamblers. The "recreational" gambler seemed to be outnumbered by a wide margin on my visit. They won't care about the changes because they're not there for ambiance. I'm sure it's easier for the casino and might even get people to spend more since they're never touching money, like with credit cards.

    However, anyone wanting a bit of the old-time experience will be unsatisfied. I won't use them again; it's pointless. >>






    I laughed out loud when I read your part about the old lady working a few machines with her cane. image The worst yelling-at I ever received was from an old lady who was playing a few machines at once and I walked up to one of them and tried to play. It was hilarious.

    I've also seen a crippled person rise from his wheelchair and walk a few steps to a blackjack table. It was a scene reminiscent of Lourdes.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    we have one of the largest casino's ever built right down the street.... Yonkers Raceway... they opened as a coinless and they have no table games either.... just paper in the slot machines..... some how its not the same
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm guessing most of their customers don't care about going coinless. If it was a bad financial move, they wouldn't do it.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    so who paid congress to pass the minting of these dollar coins then?
    you know they did not come up with the idea themselves..

    vending machine industry lobby for it?
    sure wasn't the slot machine industry eh?
  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    Dave and Busters did it with video games and now they get 4 times as much for each game. We'll see how the mathematically challenged fair with this change.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>so who paid congress to pass the minting of these dollar coins then? [...] sure wasn't the slot machine industry eh? >>

    Which dollar coins? If you're talking about Presidential Dollars, I doubt it was the slot vendors and casino industry. I think those dollars were made primarily after the Mint predicted they would make $6 billion on SHQs through 2008, so that would be collectors paying the Mint to issue dollar coins image
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I live approximately 15-30 minutes from Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun yet I have never been to Mohegan Sun and have only been to Foxwoods one time. The reason my wife and I went to Foxwoods was that a coworker of hers told her that there was a good Mexican restaurant there. However, after walking for perhaps an hour, we found no evidence of a Mexican restaurant and then asked an employee who said that out of the 31-or so places to eat at Foxwoods, none could be considered a Mexican restaurant. We left, however, as we were leaving we passed two large, open halls that were filled with slot machines and nearly entirely populated by blue-haired senior citizens who were furiously pumping money into the machines. I turned to my wife and told her that if I heard any of those people complain about Social Security that I would take their cane and beat them.image

    By the way, we have since found a very good, local, tiny Mexican restaurant near the Thames Bridge named Ortega's.image
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I turned to my wife and told her that if I heard any of those people complain about Social Security that I would take their cane and beat them. >>

    Lol. True, but that's still no excuse for spending a $1.5 trillion social security surplus! Other people deserved to be beaten with a cane too image
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Most of the casinos in Las Vegas have also switched to the coinless system, and finding machines that dispenses coins are getting more difficult by the day to find. Although I wasn't a fan of the coinless system at first, I have found it as a much more convenient (and cleaner) alternative to coins. At least your hands won't be covered in black grime every time you touch a handful of your coins in the hopper tray.

    Remember this...if you don't play you can't win. At least when you play you have a chance to win.

    Gaming enthusiasts should definitely make their pilgrimage to Las Vegas if they haven't done so already. I have never been a fan of East Coast casinos and disgusting Atlantic City makes Reno's Virginia Ave. Strip look glamorous. The Las Vegas Strip is known for attracting a mostly chic clientele, which is a far cry from the infirmed, social security money spending fossils who tend to inhabit most of the New Jersey and Connecticut casinos.
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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I solved the problem: I bought them. The Mystry Front ( Castle front) is stocked with all silver. What a beautiful sound.
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  • thecointraderthecointrader Posts: 480 ✭✭


    << <i>Remember this...if you don't play you can't win. At least when you play you have a chance to win. >>



    Also true: "If you don't play, you can't lose. Because when you play, chances are that you will lose."

    That having been said, I did win a Gold Eagle several years ago from a machine at the Cal Neva in Reno, for a 75 cent "investment".
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    drwstr123:

    Ooooh, you are really cool!

    What a wonderful present for a coin collector!
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Uhh man that sucks, I don't gamble, it's a voluntary tax.

    I live 10 minutes from both of the black holes, wish they would disappear.

    They now have half cent machines, ensuring every cent is swallowed up.

    I feel they should have machines that take returnables, homeless need a place to donate.

    Machines that take blood, in return for a few spins on a slot machine, with a nurse standing by.

    Maybe some day there will be casino's in every state.

    "A world at play" is the motto for Mohegan Sun, how about "A world in revolving maxed out credit card debt"

    "The wonder of it all" is the Foxwoods slogan, how about "Wonder how your gonna get home with no gas money"

    They have one purpose, separate the public from their money.

    Say no to casino's

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Uhh man that sucks, I don't gamble, it's a voluntary tax.

    I live 10 minutes from both of the black holes, wish they would disappear.

    They now have half cent machines, ensuring every cent is swallowed up.

    I feel they should have machines that take returnables, homeless need a place to donate.

    Machines that take blood, in return for a few spins on a slot machine, with a nurse standing by.

    Maybe some day there will be casino's in every state.

    "A world at play" is the motto for Mohegan Sun, how about "A world in revolving maxed out credit card debt"

    "The wonder of it all" is the Foxwoods slogan, how about "Wonder how your gonna get home with no gas money"

    They have one purpose, separate the public from their money.

    Say no to casino's >>



    Casinos are generally a positive for the local economies. Don't forget the number of jobs one casino can create. If it weren't for casinos the unemployment rate in the Mashantucket and Mohegan Nation areas (and not to mention the rural areas of Connecticut) would be substantially higher.

    If it weren't for casinos the state of Nevada would be one of the poorest states in the nation with little to no tourism interest.

    Returnables? That's what Pawnbrokers are for.

    It is the goal of virtually every business to separate their customers' money from their possession. Since they are a business, casinos are no exception. Excessive spending on goods, not gaming, is the primary cause of credit card debt.

    Once the holdout states can get past their backwards conservative sentiments and realize the potential financial benefits that legalized gaming can bring to their state then they will realize that allowing legal gaming is the obvious smart choice for their citizens.
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  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579
    The ticket in ticket out system is yet another (of many) changes in recent years that put the player at a disadvantage. Most gamblers are idiots, and they haven't a clue what the odds are at any given game, how to play it, or how and why they are being manipulated from the moment they walk into a joint. I cite as a prime example the new single deck 6:5 blackjack games. Most casual gamblers have heard through the grapevine that single deck blackjack games are "better", although they haven't a clue as to why, and they flock to these garbage games thinking they're helping themselves. Sadly, a single deck 6:5 blackjack table has worse odds than an 8 deck continuous shuffle with full pay. On that same token, players toss money away on bad bets all the time, and they do so thinking they're making good bets--the casino can't lose with such stupid people making them rich.

    Coin slots require players to pick up 3 or more coins and put them into the slot, one at a time, before they can pull the handle. This results in fewer spins per hour, which results in less $$$ for the casino. Furthermore, when gamblers must deal with coins they must also deal with the reality of how much money they are winning (or most likely, LOSING). They will cut off play after a few rolls of quarters if it isn't paying off. This results in less money for the casino. With tickets, the customer never deals with money at all--they no longer see their button pushing at the slot machine to be a money wager, because it's done in invisible currency by way of the paper ticket. More $$$ for the casino. Machine-switching, another fun game of the gambler, is now also reduced. What was once as easy as taking your bucket to the machine next door now requires cashing out and getting a ticket which may or may not be read by another machine, so they have to go cash in and then come back, and by then the machine may be taken. To avoid any of these hassels, players just play out until their balance is zero--more $$$ for the casino. Add to that the overhead involved in the soft count rooms. Employees are required to run the counting machines, wash the coins, make change, do the accounting--all that can now be drastically reduced or eliminated altogether. More $$$ for the casino.

    So when someone says "I like it, coins are dirty!", I just want to puke on them.
  • I have to say I am surprised at the emotion some have shown toward what others do for fun or whare they do it. WTCG must have heard of or experienced something exceptionally bad to be this tainted. I think the coinless machines are designed to make people forget they are playing with money. Much like a credit/debit card purchase is less emotional then counting out greenbacks. Many people insert their $50 or $100 bill and play till it is gone.

    I am about 2 hours drive from either the Conn. casinos or Atlantic city. I see alot of poverty in Atlantic City itself but I am not disgusted by their casinos nor do I think the casinos caused the problems there. In the last 10 years I may have been to a casino 10 times and that is fine with me. I understans a 2000 slot project is slated for The Meadowlands Racetrack which is 15 min. away for me. I look forward to building it but that will probably be the only time I'll visit.
    Joe
  • I hit the slots for $10,000 a few years ago. I rarely go to casinos and have never been back since. On a bad note I took the full payout and didn't file taxes on it. 3 years later (after I had spent the money) I had to pay 3200 in back taxes.
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    Who cares, Roulette is the game I play

    No need for coins on the felt

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  • drwstr123, your Mystry Front machine is a very fine piece, nice taste.

    Gaming and coin collecting have a long and gloried history. Think about some of the fabulous coin collections built in Nevada.

    Silver coin built Carson City, Reno and San Francisco. There is both new and old money - Fast money and slow money- in those towns, but the old money makes for nicer collections. Silver and Gold are mined in Northern Nevada and find their way into the cities and ranches and mints and stores. Additionally, there are many cases over the years of folks who came to town and left lighter than they arrived. More than one soul has sold valuable to catch a train/car/cab/plane/Nighthorse out of town.

    There are some awesome coin/collectible hoards built in gaming towns.
    For instance, the Redfield Collection. Also, the Fitzgerald hoard was pretty incredible. Look at the Binion hoard out of Las Vegas.

    I’ve been in a couple warehouses myself in Northern Nevada that blew me away. One of them was owned by Si Redd, founder of International Gaming Technology. Full of antique slot machines and other assorted goodies. I worked for Si on his production line in the mid 80’s. When things got slow, rather than lay us off, he would send us to the warehouse and we would rehab his collection pieces.

    Unfortunately, much of the towns silver/coin hoards/collections have been parceled out and sold off (a good thing if you’re buying, just unfortunate if you like to view awesome collections intact). For instance, breaking up the Harrah’s car collection and the Liberty Belle’s antique collection was just a crying shame. There have been a few nice collections of antique gaining/coin operated machines put together-broken up over the years. There have been some rich coin collectors too, Harold ‘Pappy’ Smith for instance curried fine gold coins.

    The Station Casino in Tonopah had one of the finest antique slot machine collections in the state. Alas, sold off to pay some bills no more than 7 or 8 years ago.

    As far as gaming: We knew the payoffs on the slot machines we built. The ones sent to Atlantic City had the worst payout ratios of them all. Of course, this was before the ‘Indian Casinos” (really bankrolled by the same new/old money).

    Bottom line: Craps is the best odds in the house. Bar none.
    Good thread.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    I have never been a fan of East Coast casinos and disgusting Atlantic City makes Reno's Virginia Ave. Strip look glamorous. The Las Vegas Strip is known for attracting a mostly chic clientele, which is a far cry from the infirmed, social security money spending fossils who tend to inhabit most of the New Jersey and Connecticut casinos.

    AC has improved over the last several years. A large area of what was a slum is now all shopping.

    LV is not all glamorous. The Strip may be clean and pretty, but the rest of LV is pretty seedy. Also, the NJ casinos are not permitted to ban blackjack players who win, unlike Nevada where those clever enough to learn how to legally play with an advantage are routinely barred.
  • fishcookerfishcooker Posts: 3,446 ✭✭

    "Only" an hour and a half from a casino? How about less than 5 miles from 2?

    Hate to say it but all the glowing platitudes from whoever, haven't shown up in the community. A few locals have jobs, but every day the places are full of locals who are losing: before work, at lunch, and after work. Even moreso on weekends.

    There's far more money lost by locals than made in wages working there. And that includes the 2 people the bank had to hire to count the casino's money.

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