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Talk lately is Johnson with possible trades, but apparently their asking price is deep. If they're smart, they choose Johnson and then field trades unless they can get the offer talked about with the Bucs recently (their first and 2 seconds). If they cannot get the trade they want after choosing Johnson, it's not the worst thing that ever happended. They need defense in a big way, but they aren't exactly unstoppable on offense either.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Just take Gaines and get out of the way. The Bucs are on a mission!

    JS
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    What a freaking waste...so much for the 07 draft.

    JS
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>What a freaking waste...so much for the 07 draft.

    JS >>



    LOL, did you really think Detroit wouldn't at least draft him? If the Bucs were ever going to get him, it was by dealing with Detroit. Now the gay pirates have to pony up if they really want him.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    We can give you Simms and a second rounder
    JS
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well the Lions might have been second quessed if Johnson turns into the stud he is projected to be so good luck to them, for their sake I hope they start shoring up that offensive line.


    Sorry Kevin you did not get your guy, oh well, the Yucs are in for another dismall season. You should at least be used to it by now. Good luck with rest of the draft.

    Thanks
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bucs should draft a head coach.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bucs didn't draft a head coach with their first pick. They went with Gaines Adams:

    Negatives: Needs to add bulk and muscle tone, as he has only adequate development … Lacks the brute strength to combat double teams working in-line … Tends to get too frustrated and throttles down when his initial moves fail … Has only adequate recognition for blocking schemes (best when isolated in one-on-one situations) … Has a good burst off the snap, but tires late in games, gradually rising out of his pads rather than exploding … While he shows aggression, he tries use his upper body strength to overpower blockers, rather than swim and rip through the blocks … Lacks consistency on the bull rush, mostly due to slender calves and poor leg drive that prevents him from getting free from the larger offensive tackles … Can handle tough coaching, but will take plays off and works best when someone is lighting a fire under him (has a nonchalant attitude at times) … When a blocker locks on to his jersey, Adams struggles to disengage, lacking the hand strength to overpower (gets frustrated and out of control, taking several plays to settle down) … Blockers have good success in attacking his body when he gets too high in his stance, leaving himself exposed … Not a classic wrap-up tackler, playing more with a drag-down style … Leaves his feet and lunges at ball carriers rather than getting in position and keeping his pads down to wrap and secure … Needs room to operate, as he struggles to shed in tight quarters (only made four tackles inside the red zone in 2006 on 582 plays).

  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Gruden will work a trade. Millen is dumb.

    JS
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>Bucs didn't draft a head coach with their first pick. They went with Gaines Adams:

    Negatives: Needs to add bulk and muscle tone, as he has only adequate development … Lacks the brute strength to combat double teams working in-line … Tends to get too frustrated and throttles down when his initial moves fail … Has only adequate recognition for blocking schemes (best when isolated in one-on-one situations) … Has a good burst off the snap, but tires late in games, gradually rising out of his pads rather than exploding … While he shows aggression, he tries use his upper body strength to overpower blockers, rather than swim and rip through the blocks … Lacks consistency on the bull rush, mostly due to slender calves and poor leg drive that prevents him from getting free from the larger offensive tackles … Can handle tough coaching, but will take plays off and works best when someone is lighting a fire under him (has a nonchalant attitude at times) … When a blocker locks on to his jersey, Adams struggles to disengage, lacking the hand strength to overpower (gets frustrated and out of control, taking several plays to settle down) … Blockers have good success in attacking his body when he gets too high in his stance, leaving himself exposed … Not a classic wrap-up tackler, playing more with a drag-down style … Leaves his feet and lunges at ball carriers rather than getting in position and keeping his pads down to wrap and secure … Needs room to operate, as he struggles to shed in tight quarters (only made four tackles inside the red zone in 2006 on 582 plays). >>




    Most obvious negative - he cannot play quarterback.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Gruden will work a trade. Millen is dumb.

    JS >>




    It's certainly possible, but Millen was interviewed on the NFLN and said they intended to keep him. The Gaines thing could have been a smokescreen the entire time, or his talk of keeping him may be a smokescreen to get a better deal. They may have been just trying to sway focus hoping the Raiders didn't trade their pick. One never knows these things. I hope they keep Calvin if their option is trading for Gaines. I suspect if Detroit intends on keeping him, they may look for a QB in the second or possibly third. I would prefer to see some D players now. Kitna sucks, but we could survive some of his mistakes if there was a better defense here to slow down other teams.
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  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>Gruden will work a trade. Millen is dumb.

    JS >>



    More like "Dumb and Dumber."

    The only trade Gruden will make with Detroit is for a new Ford. image
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    With the blah blah blah pick in the 2007 draft the eagles pick..10 guys who can block Ronde Barber.

    JS
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>With the blah blah blah pick in the 2007 draft the eagles pick..10 guys who can block Ronde Barber.

    JS >>



    How about cannot block Ronde but still wind up in the playoffs? We'll take that.

    Too bad Ronde doesn't have Tiki's smarts. Maybe he could have retired early too. A shame that he has trouble reading cue cards without pictures. Perhaps they'll work him in as Tiki's double in TV segments where no speaking is involved.

    Enjoy to doing QB shuffle.

    Hey did Chris and Jeff get their matching tatoos yet? It's rumored that they're "joined at the groin...errrr hip." image
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    I really thought Quinn was going to Miami. I wonder what is going through his head? He has to be dissapointed.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Please tell the Eagles;

    That the road to the playoffs goes through Ronde Barber.

    JS
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>Please tell the Eagles;

    That the road to the playoffs goes through Ronde Barber.

    JS >>



    Boy he made a big difference last year. The Eagles left him in the dust along with the rest of the Sucs.

    Wearing the "Matt Bryant Day" t-shirt today?

    Still busy wearing out that 02 highlights DVD? Oh to be successful again!

    Barber gets burned more often than not these days. Time to pick another faux hero.

    Somewhere Tony Dungy is still laughing uproariously.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>





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  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>



    When did Edgerrin get a Super Bowl ring? Hmmm, he may be interested to know that.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those Bucs DVD's sell on ebay "buy it now" for 99 cents, free shipping - no buyers.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those Bucs DVD's sell on ebay "buy it now" for 99 cents, free shipping - no buyers. >>





    Even cheaper at Wal Mart.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>



    When did Edgerrin get a Super Bowl ring? Hmmm, he may be interested to know that. >>




    Stalin musta been referring to Edgerrin Smith, the assistant equipment manager.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>



    When did Edgerrin get a Super Bowl ring? Hmmm, he may be interested to know that. >>




    Stalin musta been referring to Edgerrin Smith, the assistant equipment manager. >>




    No, I suspect he really meant James. It's obvious he wasn't paying attention to football at all last year as he thinks the Semenholes and gay pirates have a chance to win this year.
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  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    I think the point was that Dungy didn't have any more than 1 ring, with or without the talent of James.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>



    When did Edgerrin get a Super Bowl ring? Hmmm, he may be interested to know that. >>




    Stalin musta been referring to Edgerrin Smith, the assistant equipment manager. >>




    No, I suspect he really meant James. It's obvious he wasn't paying attention to football at all last year as he thinks the Semenholes and gay pirates have a chance to win this year. >>




    Of course he meant James. Stalin lives in the past. Probably still listens to his 8-track tapes of disco music.
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Either way, argueing with Kevin about the Bucs is like talking to a wall.

    All of his usually intelligent, thought-out, and lucid conversations here goes out the window when the Bucs are involved. image

    shawn
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>



    2006 "Matt Bryant Day" in Tampa for what, the third win? - laughable.

    2006 "Pittsburgh Boot of Shame" last minute field goal to avoid a shut out in the QBs home town - pathetic.

    2007 #4 Draft Pick - priceless.

    The league awaits the Sucs 07 demise and Gruden's exit.

    Become a Jags fan Kevin, it's closer.

  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Lets review the numbers:

    # of Bucs super bowl DVD's : 1
    # of Eagles super bowl DVD's : 0

    # of SB Rings with Pittman,Brad Johnson and Keyshawn for Gruden: 1
    # of SB Rings with Edgerrin, Peyton Manning,Harrison, Wayne and Addai for Dungy : 1

    JS >>



    When did Edgerrin get a Super Bowl ring? Hmmm, he may be interested to know that. >>




    Stalin musta been referring to Edgerrin Smith, the assistant equipment manager. >>




    No, I suspect he really meant James. It's obvious he wasn't paying attention to football at all last year as he thinks the Semenholes and gay pirates have a chance to win this year. >>



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