I've heard coins described as art, but not often literally
jonathanb
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I'm pretty much a US-only collector, but I saw this and I had to have it. It started off as an 1890 Ecuador 1/2 centavo. Then someone planed down one side and created this tiny little painting of a farmer with three llamas on the road in front of a mountain. The main picture is enlarged to show the brushwork. There's even a signature, although I can't read it. The little images in the bottom corners are more or less actual size, depending on your monitor settings.
Does anyone know any more about this sort of thing? I don't even know if it's rare or if there are a whole bunch of them out there.
Does anyone know any more about this sort of thing? I don't even know if it's rare or if there are a whole bunch of them out there.
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That is a superb quality miniature painting, I would say, and because of its age (probably contemporary to the host coin) and its fascinating, unusual nature, I would imagine it is worth some money. How much? I don't think there is any way to accurately figure that out- it is the sort of thing that auctions decide, and depends on the buyer, of course.
Mind you, I am not suggesting it is worth a huge sum, but it's worth something, I can tell you that. In your small thumbnail picture it looks like the unpainted side of the host coin is of lustrous Uncirculated, perhaps prooflike quality. That is a plus.
What would I personally pay for something like this, if I felt the wild urge and had spare funds? I would probably try to grab it in the hundred-dollar range, give or take twenty bucks. I would not be surprised at all to see it fetch more than that in the right venue, perhaps as much as the mid three-figures?
Of course that is a wild guess, based on little to no experience with such items.
As it happens, my experience is not a total zero with painted scenes on coins, though. I had a high grade holed 1897 Indian cent on the Holey Coin Vest up until last year, when I gave or swapped it to a forum friend. I think I just gave it away, because I had several, and this one had paint on the back of it. I almost decided to strip it off with acetone, but I let my friend decide its fate.
He PM'ed me saying it was a neat scene on the back of the coin.
I said, scene? WHAT scene?
Turns out that beneath the oxidized old paint there was indeed a tiny scene painted on the back of the Indian cent- a snowy landscape with a church in it!
To the naked eye, I had never even made it out! I thought it was just random smears of paint.
It's a good thing that coin ended up with somebody who recognized the artwork and was able to conserve it without destroying it, as I would have unknowingly done.
This 1897 Indian cent was much more primitively done than the sophisticated job on your Ecuadorian coin, but I still thought it was neat. Funny how a lot of the coins I have sold off my Holey Coin Vest ended up being discovery coins after I sold them! (In the case of the new Overton variety 1806 half, it wasn't that funny- ouch!)
I'm just glad John recognized the scene for what it was. I came within an inch of plunking that thing in acetone and scrubbing the paint off.
Cool piece you have there. I can see why you "had to have it".
In a similar vein, I recently dropped fifty bucks at the Charlotte show, on another oddity.
It was a French 2-francs made into a WW1 US soldier's dogtag.
Another item that falls into the "who knows what it is worth but it is super cool" category. I flipped that dogtag piece at my cost to another member here, when I started feeling like I had paid too much. But maybe I hadn't. Who knows?
You can see the reverse of the IHC was never planed down like jonathanb's example.
jonathanb your 1/2 centavo is wonderful! Lots of detail to it!
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I like the Indian head church painting. I see why you missed it -- it took me a moment to realize what I was looking at, even after you told me. Bonus points on that one for being an American piece, from my perspective anyway.
I've seen dog tags on a variety of different hosts, but I don't collect them so I haven't paid too much attention. The most annoying one I saw was a WWII dog tag on a 1928 Peace dollar (for non-American collectors: that's a key date)
jonathan