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NEWP: Die breaks galore.

Picked-up an 1886 Zs 8 Reales, which I at first thought was a counterfeit. After examining the coin closer, I'm starting to suspect it's authentic ( image ). I still like the numerous die breaks, as well as die scratches below the Cap. I shots the pics and thought I would share:


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  • I have always wanted one of those. That one looks quite interesting with the breaks, the die polish, and even a chop mark (i think). I just wish I saw it first image
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,738 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have always wanted one of those. That one looks quite interesting with the breaks, the die polish, and even a chop mark (i think). I just wish I saw it first image >>



    There are 5 chops on the eagle side and two on the cap side. There's also an "X" scratched next to the eagles' head.

    And you could've seen it first if you visited Taylor Coins at the corner of Eglington and Avenue Rd. in Toronto image


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    << <i>I have always wanted one of those. That one looks quite interesting with the breaks, the die polish, and even a chop mark (i think). I just wish I saw it first image >>



    There are 5 chops on the eagle side and two on the cap side. There's also an "X" scratched next to the eagles' head.

    And you could've seen it first if you visited Taylor Coins at the corner of Eglington and Avenue Rd. in Toronto image >>



    Close, I was taking a final exam near Cincinnati. image
  • bosoxbosox Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The X is a scratch. The lines look like die polish (raised), but hard to tell from a photo.
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  • Rickc300Rickc300 Posts: 876 ✭✭
    I see nothing that would make me think fake based on your pics... While, I am way out of my league on these coins, what would make you think it was counterfeit? I just want to know since I have acquired 26 of these over time (I love big crude coins like this) ... image
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hmmm . . . not may collectors would be sad to find out their coin is not fake. image

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,738 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I see nothing that would make me think fake based on your pics... While, I am way out of my league on these coins, what would make you think it was counterfeit? I just want to know since I have acquired 26 of these over time (I love big crude coins like this) ... image >>



    I normally start with assuming that the coin is counterfeit and try to prove to myself it's not. In this case, however, low weight (still within acceptable limits - 26.86g) and numerous die defects indicated the possibility of this coin struck with softer dies, cast out of dental plastic - a method used by our Beijing friends. The scratched "X" also hinted on the possibility of this being a counterfeit. The large counterstamp looked unusual, almost as if lacking "struck" characteristics. But after examining the rest of the coin I think that happened after this coin received an acid bath - the dealer admitted to soaking his silver in CLR when I asked him. The edge overlaps are also present, which makes me believe it's authentic.


    bosox - all of the lines in the picture are raised, except for the "X".

    ajaan - image


  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭
    Neat coin and die breaksimage
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