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I might be on to something with this whole OPC thing.....

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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Looks like an impatient bidder who likes quality and doesn't mind paying for it. I don't mean impatient in a bad way - knows what he wants and buys it.

    Some nice cards he's bought recently. Get those OPC 10s!
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  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    holy crap. anyone wanna do a OPC rip image
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    It just seems intuitive to me that since OPC print runs are a lot smaller, cards are way more condition-sensitive, and pops for everything are really low, that OPC PSA 10s should command a huge premium over Topps in most years, especially 80s and 90s when Topps print runs were way out of hand and OPC stayed relatively low. Obviously the Bonds is more of a high-profile card, but wouldn't a guy that needed say a PSA 10 '90 OPC Cal Ripken fight pretty hard to get it?

    Lee
  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    Lee, makes sense.

    I was serious about ripping some OPC. In the early 90's I bought a ton of 84' OPC for the mattingly RC's... they sold pretty well at card shows and such. The one thing I remember was the gum was very different from the topps version (yes, I ate 8 year old gum)

    Heck, I bought a pack from the 50's (Bowman football 54 or 55) and the dealer offered me $20 if I ate the gum. Easy money! image it dissolved on my tongue lol.

    What about Donruss Leaf? shorter print runs as well?
    Just curious.

    Leo
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭
    I was going to snipe a card last week and someone else put in a bid, that said to me , Goodbye. Then out of the blue , near the end this bidder jack up the price to never never land. I check his feedback and could not believe the prices he was willing to pay. He can bid on the 1 of 1 steaks and I will have to be content with hamberger bids.

    I only wish I had some cards he wanted real bad.
    " In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I've been buying opc cards for a while, mostly 60s and 70s but not for resale. There's way less of them but really there is way less demand too. Unless you get high grades for registry sets they aren't worth much.

    If you break a box of 87 opc, and you take out the registry set players, grade them and get them sold to the set collectors, what do you have left? You probably won't see a lot of people building complete graded sets. Maybe a handful. So you fill the ripken sets, the bonds sets, clemens etc but then there's more graded 10s and they're not so impossible to get.

    In the meantime somebody has to fill that demand, might as well be you!

    My favorite opc card - 32 graded, 11 7s and 6 higher. Same card in Topps, 1300 graded, 301 7s and 270 higher.

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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    i've picked up an 85 and 86 opc. the 85s were from kruk and basically crapola. the 86s were from someone else and i may have a 10 hanging out there somewhere...<fingers crossed>


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Leaf also had much shorter print runs than Donruss, but card and printing quality was the same as Donruss, meaning it's just as easy to pull a PSA 10 Clemens out of a box of Leaf as it is a box of Donruss. I've never been a huge Donruss fan, so the Leaf cards don't do much for me.

    I just opened about a half case of 1992 OPC looking for PSA 10 stars. 1992 was really good in terms of card quality by OPC standards, but out of 12 boxes I only got 25 cards I'm sending in for grading, and this includes semistars like Bo Jackson and Mike Greenwell. In a year like 1989, you're lucky if you get one PSA 10 common or star in the whole box.

    Lee
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    OPC, how can i explain it?
    i'll take you frame by frame it...

    you down wit OPC? yeah you know me
    you down wit OPC?, every last homie
    ·p_A·
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    One of the problems with '80's and early '90's oddball wax is that unless you pull a card of a specific player (read: Robin Yount) and the pop is less than 2 in the grade it comes back with then you're going to have a very hard time making anything more than burger-flipping money on the resale. The number of guys who are genuinely serious about putting together complete, high grade master sets of a given HOFer can almost be counted on one hand, and with the exception of Schmidt and Yount there isn't any other player that has more than two guys competing for the cards. If you pull a PSA 10 1/1 Puckett, for instance, the only guy who will pay more than $20 for it is porkchopper4. The same holds for Bonds, Clemens, Gwynn, Winfield, and so on. Each of these sets has one guy who's passionate about doing the set, but after that one guy has the card the market is basically dead.
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Why are the OPC packs and boxes generally cheaper than the regular Topps versions??

    Is it simply supply and demand? I would've thought the "rarer" stuff would've been more pricey.

    I would agree with Boopotts. If there isn't anyone trying to complete the entire set, you would lose out on a lot of money from those guys fighting for that rare psa 10 1/1 common that usually brings a good penny.

    shawn
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Boo- there's always one guy that sh*ts in the apple pie.

    I totally agree with everything you just said, but people are being added to the registry every day, and it's only a matter of time before pissing contests for the rest of the HOFers and superstars begins. We've talked about the Yount guys who are clearly insane, but what do they do when they've have all the Younts there are to be had? Molitor? Fingers? Cooper? Who the hell knows, but you can't stop an obsessive collector from collecting.

    The registry is still in its infancy, and I think the player-collector competitions are going to be the greatest form of "whose is bigger" in the hobby when all is said and done. Sports fans and card collectors are too competitive for their own good.

    Lee
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OPC, how can i explain it?
    i'll take you frame by frame it...

    you down wit OPC? yeah you know me
    you down wit OPC?, every last homie >>



    Are you Naughty by Nature??
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    For anyone interested, just saw this:

    1987 OPC Packs
  • pjray55pjray55 Posts: 141
    I recently opened a box of 1987 OPC and didnt find a star card worth submitting which may explain why there are still only 2 Bonds PSA 10's. I had better luck with 83 and 84 OPC than with the 87's and by no means were the 83 and 84's in great condition out of the pack.

    Patrick
    Looking for additions or upgrades to my Graig Nettles master player set on the registry.
  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭


    << <i>For anyone interested, just saw this:

    1987 OPC Packs >>



    I like the 10,000x rarer lineimage
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