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Is PCGS being very tight on toned coins right now?

CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
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At the Santa Clara show a well known dealer in type said that a lot toned coins are being bagged or won’t cross and that this is not a good time to submit toned coins for grading or cross over. Of course I heard this AFTER dropping off my grading submission at PCGS. image

Can anyone else here confirm or refute this from personal experience?

If true it could be good—AT coins will no longer be slabbed and the doctors will have to move on to something else.

Or it could be bad—more original coins will get dipped to make it into a slab.

CG

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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    I didn't hear anything about toned coins but PCGS is EXTREMELY tough on ANYTHING classic sans Morgans.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I just received two toners in a recent submission that I thought sure would bag so I'm gonna say no I don't think they are any more critical than they usually are.
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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just recently cracked out these from Ngc 65 plastic and got back a 64 and 65 in Pcgs plastic.I was satisfied.
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  • GullibleNewbGullibleNewb Posts: 401
    Toners seem fine to me, but don't bother with mint state large cents. Or any other early copper for that matter. At least at economy level.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    I just recently cracked out these from Ngc 65 plastic and got back a 64 and 65 in Pcgs plastic.I was satisfied. >>



    I'm just curious why you cracked them? Is the premium for PCGS plastic enough on those dates to risk getting back a 64? I have a hard time believing that a NGC 65 is worth less or equal to PCGS 64.

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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>At the Santa Clara show a well known dealer in type said that a lot toned coins are being bagged or won’t cross and that this is not a good time to submit toned coins for grading or cross over. Of course I heard this AFTER dropping off my grading submission at PCGS. image

    Can anyone else here confirm or refute this from personal experience?

    If true it could be good—AT coins will no longer be slabbed and the doctors will have to move on to something else.

    Or it could be bad—more original coins will get dipped to make it into a slab.

    CG >>



    I'm sorry, but this is another reason why I think the toned coin (toned commem specifically for me) hobby is not something I am pursuing any longer. Just way to much ambiguity IMO. This month a coin is AT but next month it's NT???imageimage
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not too long ago I had a couple bump, one drop a point and a few others grade the same. They were crackouts from NGC and ICG plastic.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure yet...

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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    AT coins will no longer be slabbed and the doctors will have to move on to something else.

    I find that scenario hard to believe...
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  • PrivateCoinCollectorPrivateCoinCollector Posts: 2,415 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>image

    I just recently cracked out these from Ngc 65 plastic and got back a 64 and 65 in Pcgs plastic.I was satisfied. >>



    I'm just curious why you cracked them? Is the premium for PCGS plastic enough on those dates to risk getting back a 64? I have a hard time believing that a NGC 65 is worth less or equal to PCGS 64.

    JJ >>



    My question as well.
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  • airedaleairedale Posts: 505 ✭
    All of the coins posted so far look like real natural toning. I could understand if they cracked down on the crazy looking florescent stuff that seems to appear quite often.
    John
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>At the Santa Clara show a well known dealer in type said that a lot toned coins are being bagged or won’t cross and that this is not a good time to submit toned coins for grading or cross over. Of course I heard this AFTER dropping off my grading submission at PCGS. image

    Can anyone else here confirm or refute this from personal experience?

    If true it could be good—AT coins will no longer be slabbed and the doctors will have to move on to something else.

    Or it could be bad—more original coins will get dipped to make it into a slab.

    CG >>



    I'm sorry, but this is another reason why I think the toned coin (toned commem specifically for me) hobby is not something I am pursuing any longer. Just way to much ambiguity IMO. This month a coin is AT but next month it's NT???imageimage >>

    So dizzyfoxx, did you sell all those pretty Classic Commemoratives you showed us this past year?
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS is tight on everything right now...

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That appears to be the current situation...

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  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭
    You know what isn't tough on toners right now, what doesn't judge the coin at all, but it looks real purdy, is a Dansco album. Break free of the plastic snobbery!
  • jobiwan115jobiwan115 Posts: 769
    Apparently, they weren't tight on the one being discussed HERE!
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  • WhatafindWhatafind Posts: 432
    Take a look at this , the mans got 21 of them up. Item number: 140110114825
    Tell me how this is done. Thank you.

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  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭


    << <i>Take a look at this , the mans got 21 of them up. Item number: 140110114825
    Tell me how this is done. Thank you. >>


    His coins are dunked in a sulfur + ammonia dip. Common jewelry technique to patina silver in rainbow. It's usually heavy on the purple.

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